• jwiggler
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    3 months ago

    We have a choice between one person publicly calling for a ceasefire and another who says Israel needs to finish the job.

    I’m not sure what you want us to do here.

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        3 months ago

        I could attend every Free Palestine protest, boycott every Israel-affiliated company, volunteer at human-rights organizations, raise money for Palestinian relief, write a book about the genocide of the Palestinian people at the hands of Israel, and cast a vote for Harris rather than Trump, and you would still say I support genocide.

        While doing what you would probably rather me do, all those things except not cast a vote at all, would be actively helping the opposition, who not only wants Israel to “finish the job,” but also moved the American embassy to Jerusalem, officially recognized Israeli settlements one the West Bank as legal, and has said he wants to deport communists and Free Palestine protesters.

        So at the end of the day, yeah I’m gonna vote for Harris. Am I happy with the Democratic party? Of fucking course not, but I don’t really have a choice in the matter.

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          I could attend every Free Palestine protest, boycott every Israel-affiliated company, volunteer at human-rights organizations, raise money for Palestinian relief, write a book about the genocide of the Palestinian people at the hands of Israel, and cast a vote for Harris rather than Trump, and you would still say I support genocide.

          Any list that contains X contains X. You’re giving material support to a political faction that’s carrying out genocide. The political analogy isn’t voting for Hindenburg, it’s reelecting Hitler in 1944.

          What I want you to do is recognize that there are no solutions within the existing political order and that is not an excuse.

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            3 months ago

            I want real options. Neither will have a positive affect in the election. If I vote for either of them, that’s basically helping Trump. Who supports genocide. I’d rather support the people that say genocide is bad.

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                3 months ago

                You’re Right, I’ll correct myself and say that at least Democrats aren’t denying Israel is killing too many. So which do you prefer in office, Trump or Harris? Only either of them will win, so saying neither is the same as disengaging with politics.

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            3 months ago

            Lol ok sure bud, Trump moving the embassy to Israel, and wanting Israel to hurry up with their genocide is the same as Kamala criticizing Israel.

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      3 months ago

      I want Kamala to call for an arms embargo on Israel if they refuse to negotiate a ceasefire.

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      3 months ago

      They want us to magically fix all the problems overnight, while blaming us for everything in the meantime.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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      3 months ago

      Ah yes, the person publicly calling for ceasefire while sending the weapons needed to conduct genocide. What’s more liberal than being unable to connect rhetoric to tangible action.