Smaller developers could have a tough time on the iOS Epic Games Store.
    • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
      1217·
      3 months ago

      I’m a bit more pathetic to epic since they actually do push the industry forward. Apple have done f all for the gaming industry. In fact they’ve largely held it back for a long time by having such terrible support for graphics drivers.

        • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
          104·
          3 months ago

          Unreal, nanite, lumen, foliage renderer, RdS, The fortnite scripting language which has been ported over to UE5, by far all the best contract for indie devs of all of the non-free game engines.

          So, yeah, quite a lot.

          • Giooschi@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            2 months ago

            Your parent comment was mentioning the fact that their store still does not support user reviews, which should be one of the most basic features.

            • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
              1·
              2 months ago

              Yeah I know but I’m saying that they do push the industry forward and then gave examples I’m not saying they’re perfect or even very good but their existence extends beyond the epic game store.

              Games built in the epic engine can be put on the Steam store no problem. So the fact that the epic store is subpar does not detract from the great advancements in their engine technology.

  • Paradachshund@lemmy.todayEnglish
    443·
    3 months ago

    Apple is like a predatory landlord and hoa all rolled into one pile of fuck you towards it’s developers. A reckoning cannot come soon enough for them.

    • William@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      3 months ago

      IIRC, they even have a rewards thing right now where you can get some free stuff for playing their games specifically on mobile, trying to draw more attention to their new store.

  • Voytrekk@lemmy.worldEnglish
    111·
    3 months ago

    I don’t understand how Apple is getting away with charging other app stores. At most they could charge for hosting the either app store’s app on their store, but that should be it. They have no other costs that they can justify since they aren’t hosting, vetting, or curating the other store.

    • PJB@lemmy.spacestation14.comEnglish
      6·
      3 months ago

      I think it’s just that government bodies like the EU move slow so it’ll take a while for them to bonk Apple, not that they’re “getting away with it” in anything more than the short term.

      I could be wrong though.

  • ryper@lemmy.caEnglish
    125·
    3 months ago

    To sell a game outside Apple’s App Store, developers must effectively pay a 50 euro cent per user per year installation fee once they reach a certain number of downloads. If developers want to link users to purchases outside the app, they’ll also need to fork out a 10 percent commission on all sales made “on any platform” — including outside of iOS. That’s on top of a 5 percent commission on purchases made within one year of the app’s installation. Then, they’d have to pay any fees charged by the operator of the new marketplace. In Epic’s case, that’s 12 percent — a significant discount on its own, but a major addition once you factor in Apple’s costs.

    Checking Apple’s fee calculator, apps that publish exclusively on third party stores don’t have to pay Apple any commission, just the core technology fee. That makes it a bit less crazy, and I don’t think article mentions it. Epic could save itself a lot of money by just not using the App Store but complaining is much more fun for Tim Sweeney.

  • Telodzrum@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1912·
    3 months ago

    Rare Good Guy Epic moment, here. That heavy breathing in the corner is the EU commission getting ready to send a sternly worded letter to Apple after investigating for 18 months.

    • Zorque@lemmy.worldEnglish
      214·
      3 months ago

      They just want to carve up a bigger piece of the consumer pie, they’re in no way a “good guy” in this.

      • Telodzrum@lemmy.worldEnglish
        914·
        3 months ago

        They are fighting against a platform that needs to be dismantled and opened to the market. They’re absolutely a good guy here.

        • Zorque@lemmy.worldEnglish
          153·
          3 months ago

          Two giants fighting over who gets to squish a village… sure, the one closer to you is totally a good guy!

          • Xabis@lemmy.worldEnglish
            6·
            3 months ago

            Im with you on this one. Corporations are never your friend no matter how they try to frame it.

  • mindbleachEnglish
    1·
    3 months ago

    To sell a game outside Apple’s App Store, developers must effectively pay a 50 euro cent per user per year installation fee once they reach a certain number of downloads. If developers want to link users to purchases outside the app, they’ll also need to fork out a 10 percent commission on all sales made “on any platform” — including outside of iOS. That’s on top of a 5 percent commission on purchases made within one year of the app’s installation. Then, they’d have to pay any fees charged by the operator of the new marketplace. In Epic’s case, that’s 12 percent — a significant discount on its own, but a major addition once you factor in Apple’s costs.

    Uh… no.

    Just straight up “go fuck yourselves.”

    Users get to decide what goes on their phones. Anything outside Apple’s repository shouldn’t have to answer to them, at all. That’s that it fucking means to be outside their store. These are stupid number games to ignore that the EU said the entire concept is a crime.