cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/642061
official twitter announcement https://twitter.com/jellyfin/status/1670589982665322496
I get the desire for a centralized location but I was hoping Lemmy would be the spot. Forums just seen so fragmented, it’s nice to go to one place to see all the discussion instead of having several subpages which honestly have little action. https://lemmy.ml/c/jellyfin seemed like the best replacement for r/Jellyfin
I totally agree with you! Why didn’t they just hosted their own Lemmy instance???
Probably for similar reasons as to why they moved from Reddit. Also configuring their own instance to approximate a traditional forum would honestly kind of undermine the whole point of using Lemmy or the like to begin with (at least imo).
I understand the sentiment of wanting them to to make their stuff easier to follow & post to from here and other places in the Fediverse, but from what they wrote, I get the sense that this format simply isn’t what they were ever looking for in terms of fielding discussions/questions. Their move to Reddit was more of a compromise for where they were at with the project at the time, but now that Jellyfin’s more developed in terms of the software and community, a forum is a more workable prospect.
Lemmy’s moderation tools are severely lacking and they seemed to want to get away from the rank by voting system and the churn created by older but relevant and active discussion being hidden on Reddit and Lemmy.
Add on user purge behavior and the headaches that causes. Can’t count the number of times I’ve been looking into an issue and came across a two year old reddit thread where the solution had been deleted. Much less likely to happen on a dedicated forum.
My gripe with old school forums is that there isn’t really any threading for comments. Makes it hard to keep up with things
Some forums have nested comments. It depends on the software.
Would you happen to be able to list some? I’ve been looking!
I have no firsthand experience, but looking at this page, candidates appear to include:
- Beehive Forum
- FUDforum
- MyBB
- Phorum
I also assume the last open-source version of Reddit’s software is still floating around the 'net somewhere.
Thanks for getting back to me!
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Congrats, that’s the kind of mentality that will make me move from Plex to Jellyfin tomorrow evening :)
I couldn’t be happier having made the move off of plex to jellyfin a couple years back. Plex is basically dead to me since they made their move into enshittification. Jellyfin is perfect! Works great never crashes etc.
The only thing with jellyfin is the constant subtitle issues for years that are very difficult to resolve I guess and inconsistent across different apps. That and sorting of non movie/show content and not respecting folder view.
Other than that, it’s pretty much perfect!
I’m out of the loop, what’s going on with plex?
As the others said below, a while back (several years at this point I think?) they decided that instead of improving their core product, they were going to move the entire business model into a really shitty version of free streaming apps. Like the ones that come preloaded on “smart” tvs full of ads and tracking.
They had an extremely long laundry list of bugs and feature requests from LONG TIME users (like me) but decided to ignore them and instead completely destroy their apps with shit.
All the sudden you login to your plex app and it’s FILLED with all sorts of content you have no idea where it came from - it’s not on your server, etc…
Which is all just sad, because as time passes, they’ll just die off and be looked at the same as any other free shitpile streaming app full of ads, instead of what they once were: a really good home media library manager.
From what I remember from the last time I opened it, they added streamed content with ads. That’s the only thing that seemed weird to me. I think they started charging for streaming content outside of the house as well, but I only ever used it to stream from my PC to my TV.
I stream from my server at my parents’ place all the time. No charge. Though I did buy a lifetime pass several years ago.
I’ve been wanting to make the jump for awhile and I’ve used jellyfin as a secondary server on my library to test run it. I really enjoy it for a lot of reasons but need to properly figure out reverse proxy before I implement it as my main.
Check their documentation, should be all there you need.
As someone who had to Google a bunch of docker issues and constantly got redirected to locked down subreddits, I’m all for developers hosting their own communities. At least then they have an incentive to keep the communities alive.
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Chats are not forums. Discord is the same bullcrap than Reddit and Facebook, just newer on the enshittification cycle. People should just have forums and someone could make a containerized microservice that federates it to Activity Hub. Now it’s searchable, indexable, publicly available and archivable.
Absolutely agree that hiding knowledge behind a paywall is crappy. I hit that issue so many times with Red Hat that I standardized on debian variants.
Searching, while a function of any modern forum, is easily bypassed with a modern search engine / crawler. Unless the forum admin takes the unlikely step of disabling web crawlers on their site, you can pass the
site:<website>filter into your search. For example: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=subtitles+site%3Aforum.jellyfin.org&ia=web shows forum posts regarding subtitles.
Good for them. Using Discord for development work has never made sense to me.
Hooo, time traveling to the 90s I see. Very vintage
Yeah it’s a pity they didn’t set up their own lemmy instance, that way every other lemmy instance could get the content…
They should just federate, they don’t need to use Lemmy to have it viewable from Lemmy/Kbin
just setup my lemmy acct. I do have a mastodon one tho. How find masto communities here, and vice versa?
But can you make a lemmy.world feed as well. Having one place to go for everything is better than 100 places.
I think that’s the point. They are not in 100 places, they are in one. If you want support about Jellyfin, you go to Jellyfin. It was always kind of stupid with Reddit.
I need support with Jellyfin, so I go to Google, write my query, add Reddit at the end, go to result that may or may not be related, try to discover the difference between the 3 or 4 different but related subreddits to find out which one is the official. Discover that none of them is. Find another sub about cutting cable. There’s a vague answer that’s similar to your issue but not exactly. Maybe try asking them directly on Twitter.
Now you just go to jellyfin.org and the forum is right there, search there for your issue or write your answer. All in one single official place that is looked at and maintained by the very same team. It’s just better overall
I meant, jellyfin, jellyseer, all the arrs are convient when i can go to one place to look at possible issues im having in one place, i.e. reddit. But since reddit decided to do what they did, thats now lemmy. Yes it was annoying but logging into multiple website ls is also annoying. Thats the only reason i use discord as well. One platform multiple spaces.
Eh I see no reason to have support discussions in Lemmy. Leave Lemmy for promotions, updates, and sharing content.
Only one question remains: will it federate
I was just thinking that common forum software implementing ActivityPub would be a great way to link all of these disparate web forums that are still active and have useful content.
You kind of can with wordpress and the AP plugin. it works with bbpress --maybe not perfectly yet, but it’s a start.
Yes, yes, yes, please yes! Let it use the ActivityPub protocol, it’ll be so epic pogchamp, fire lit fam 🙏🏻
Jellyfin is a fantastic platform and I really like to use it!
It’s given me a second renaissance of “cutting the cable” in this streaming no-ownership era
Yes! I finally just set up a dynamic DNS so I could get my music away from home.
Sweet. I’ll probably never use it :(
Also being discussed in the Jellyfin Lemmy (which has some unofficial dev participation): https://lemmy.ca/post/749294
damn that’s gross
nice switching back to good oll forums
I wish they would have chosen to use software to maintain threading in comments and I’m not sure that really Discourse gamifies it’s posts. After a quick look at the interface of myBB, I can say that I personally prefer Discourse. But I think non-accelrated-time-decaing forums are way better than Reddit for things like a project hub. I think what I liked about having many of my interests in on Reddit was the context switch for a topic often didn’t require a context switch in interface to benefit from the network effect of many people participating in the topic.
But at the end of the day, knowing where to get quality assistance and casual discussion about a topic or project is all I’m after. Reddit has been a place to find what I was after, oftentimes as a signpost to find where people are gathering. And now the threadiverse is providing that function much better and sooner than I expected despite its many shortcomings.
I’ve always wondered why people DON’T choose discourse. It just works and looks great.
This would have been better if they had created a Federated platform so we could subscribe to it from here. I’m tired of using a dozen apps to do basically the same thing.
I’m so happy that they aren’t using Discourse.
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Discourse is centralized and proprietary, so it has all the same inherent fatal flaws as Reddit (and Twitter and Facebook)
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He’s probably mistaking Discourse with Discord…
