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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlM to United States | News & Politics@lemmy.mlEnglish · 8 months ago

Republicans vs Democrats

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlM to United States | News & Politics@lemmy.mlEnglish · 8 months ago
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  • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Both sides support genocide and rascism. The only difference is aestheics and cultural signifiers

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    Trump wants to build the wall and do genocide because be is racist.

    Harris wants to build the wall and do genocide because it is good for the economy.

    They are clearly not the same.

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      We are constantly making the mistake in Russia of judging the slogans and tactics of a certain party or group, of judging its general trend, by the intentions or motives that the group claims for itself. Such judgement is worthless. The road to hell—as was said long ago—is paved with good intentions.

      It is not a matter of intentions, motives or words but of the objective situation, independent of them, that determines the fate and significance of slogans, of tactics or, in general, of the trend of a given party or group.

      ~ V.I Lenin Word And Deed

      If both parties are doing the same shit, it doesn’t fucking matter why

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    On the left is racism AND genocide. But you knew that already, you’re just happy to mislead.

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        It would be one thing if you only talked about the policies being essentially the same and having the same outcomes.

        But you brought up rhetoric, and the rhetoric is not the same, and that gives people leeway in saying you’re being misleading.

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          So being racist towards Palestinians isn’t racist? Is that what you’re saying?

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      Are you just going to ignore the racist and xenophobic talking points by Harris about how immigrants are bringing fentanyl to kill US citizens? Or Harris bringing up the factually incorrect claims about Hamas members and Palestinian men sexually assaulting Israelis, based on racist colonial tropes. Or how Harris was a top prosecutor that spent her entire career locking up minorities. I could go on and on, the entire debate consisted of the candidates trying to outdo each other with the amount of racism they were spewing.

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        You’re doing a fine job of ignoring Donald’s ¯\(ツ)/¯

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          • TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de
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              Is “comrade” supposed to be an insult? People aren’t embarrassed that they’re Communists.

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          soypoint-1 whatabout Trump soypoint-2

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            Oh come on, it’s a false equivalence on its face. How many other options are there?

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          All trumpanzees so obviously need to be rounded up and shot that it’s not even worth mentioning. It’s libs like you that need to be called out for trying to use faux progressivism to justify the exact same shit trumpanzees want.

          Edit: Lol some lib responded to this comment and blocked me before I could see it and now there’s a big argument in the replies.

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            As opposed to the very authentic progressivism of rounding up and shooting political opponents?

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              People like you are why reconstruction went the way it did

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                If you can’t reach your ideal democracy without executing dissidents, that’s not democracy.

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                  ‘Dissidents’ like they’re some powerless minority being oppressed and that their dissent isn’t over the value of human life. This is why we say that liberals are the same as fascists. “Sorry freemen, if we crack down on the whites killing you and passing black codes, it’s just not a democracy!”

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                  If you can’t stop a genocide electorally, that’s not democracy.

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          It’s not news to anyone that Trump is a massive piece of shit.

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      The right is genocide AND rascism. But you knew that already, you’re just happy to be self-decieved

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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      in the right is racism and genocide, but in way that’s palatable to libs, you’re just happy to mislead

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      And Trump’s solution to the genocide is nuking Gaza.

      If you’re using Harris’s stance on Palestine/Israel as a reason to not vote for her, you’re an idiot.

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        Common genocide supporter comment

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      Don’t forget rape!

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        Blue MAGA has proven that’s not a deal breaker for them either lol

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        The left candidate on the right and the right candidate on the left has me confused about what she these comments are on.

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          There’s no left candidate here though. Only two genocidal capitalists

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            Very true, for purposes of this comment, I’d mean relative to each other.

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    Best line I’ve heard yet on the issue

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    How do you like your shit served?

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    Which of these candidates do you think will be more willing to have their minds changed with protests and petitions?

    Nothing is going to be easy or perfect, but we can at least choose the most likely candidate that is slightly more aligned with our desired outcome and then fight for what is needed.

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      zero equals zero

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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      Obviously neither, and anybody who claims otherwise is not engaging with reality.

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      Neither, American support for genocide has an economic basis and both candidates serve Capital.

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      sry, wrong sub, people here want trump to win xD

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    Having a fringe lunatic as plausible opposition actually works really great in a two-party system, as the Democrats can really focus on policy for lobbyists and not so much on policy for the electorate. Just point out that the other guy would be worse.

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      It’s even worse this time, Kamala is running to the right of Trump in 2016 regarding Immigrants, so you can see in real time Trump jump to go even further right, like the cats and dogs bit.

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    Need to add Jill Stein and Chase Oliver to the mix to fully embrace how weak all our candidates are.

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    My dad gave me a choice between a pair of skates or a 10 year old used car when I turned 18 but I refused both and told him I wanted a brand new car. I ended up with a pair of skates. Getting to work was hard the next 4 years.

    /s

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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      I’m 13 and this is deep.

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      So voting for genocide is as easy to shitlibs as it is to buy skates. Good to know.

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