• @[email protected]
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    605 days ago

    How can you possibly think you are on the right side of things as you call in a bomb threat on a school?

    I just don’t understand how these people can think their tactics are morally justified.

  • @[email protected]
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    USA politics are truly something to behold.

    It’s too hard to accurately put into words how it looks from the outside.

    The closest would be that it’s an absolute joke and the whole world laughs at you.

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      I don’t know anyone laughing though. I do know a lot of people that look at it and worry. The blatant lying, the calls to violence, the open fascism, cult like following… If this tips the wrong way, the children of the future will be learning about jan6 and what is to come like we learn about the night of the long knifes.

      The example Trump is teaching the whole world is that there are no consequences if you just double down and keep saying insane shit while throwing your weight around. And even federal judges will bend for you à

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        I know a lot of people who laugh at it, but then again, I’m not from the US.

        And Trump isn’t really teaching the world anything. If he’s teaching anything it’ll be how the US allows this dumpsterfire.

        • Flying Squid
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          As people in countries from Brazil to India can tell you- this is not a U.S. problem. It’s a right-wing populism problem.

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      It’s like watching a drunk gorilla in a weird dress stumbling around, doing ridiculous things while acting tough.
      It would be funny, except you’re stuck inside the room with it, it’s holding a rocket launcher, and half the people in the room with you are imitating its moves.

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      It’s not funny from where I’m sitting. (On a toilet in New York)

      • @[email protected]
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        “Problems” are always enhanced by politicians. Look at where you are in life, it’s actually quite beautiful compared to what they try to make you believe. It even has toiletpaper.

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          And you may find yourself in a beautiful bathroom, on a beautiful toilet

          And you may ask yourself, "Well, how did I get here?

    • @[email protected]
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      Fair enough. To be honest there is a lot of politics in over countries people in the US laugh about.

      • @[email protected]
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        Amen to that. Where the hell is homeland security when shits like this (Drumpf & Fox) are spreading lies & slander that bring agitated unrest & death?

      • arefx
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        If he was a normal ass person he already would have been with all the Jan 6er scum

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        That’s because he really does believe it. If you listen to him say he heard it on TV it is the most genuine statement he has ever made. It’s like a child telling you exactly what they saw on TV.

        If you’re looking for someone to sue it would have to be the “sources” Trump heard the information from. Unfortunately I’m confident those people understand the ruse. They know to say allegedly. They know how to utilize weasel words.

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          Oh man. “I saw it on TV!”. Exact same intonation my 4yo used when he saw a “trailer” for Mario Movie 2 when actually it was just some junk a highschool kid threw together in iMovie. Totally belief and innocent ignorance.

          It’s at that moment I realized that Trump isn’t just a useful idiot. He’s the perfect useful idiot.

          Like a part of me thinks that Trump might actually believe in Santa and that he looks an awful lot like that guy in the power tool show and sounds an awful lot like Buzz Lightyear.

          • @SreudianFlip
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            He’s the Star Trek Mirror Universe version of Chauncy Gardener.

      • @[email protected]
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        problem is you could never prove beyond all reasonable doubt he didn’t believe it himself

        Sounds like a candidate for a proper psych evaluation, then.

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          His niece, Mary Trump, knows him well and is a licensed clinical psychologist. She’s spoken and written extensively on his mental disorders (normally a psychologist won’t do that publicly, but she’s said he’s such a danger to the nation, she feels she has no choice).

          She’s well worth reading and listening to.

          • @[email protected]
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            And she’s not the only person in his family tree that is speaking out against the orange menace.

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          He has the best brain. The greatest brain. One time, for some unknown reason, he took a cognitive test meant for dementia patients. He supposedly passed but he claimed it was hard for him. Such a stable genius.

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              The amazing thing about that idiocy mostly flew under the radar at the time:

              According to neurologists, in the test he was bragging about (aside from being extremely easy because it’s meant to screen for dementia), those would not have been the words.

              The point of the 5 words portion is that the words are never related, because that would defeat the purpose of the memory test. They’re always carefully selected unrelated words, like daisy clock giraffe piano door.

              He very obviously did not remember the words and was just naming things he could literally see at the time.

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                He very obviously did not remember the words and was just naming things he could literally see at the time.

                Exactly.

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            It’s just the phrasing that lawyers always use because it’s difficult to prove that someone actually knew something. So even if the person denies they knew it wasn’t one hundred percent true you can still make the argument that they should have known it wasn’t true. Although, you cant always be sued for defamation about a group of people. It depends on the laws in that state

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            I feel anyone with a hard science background could make a device, which is part of the rationale of ethics and philosophy being in the curriculum. We do so much how we forget to discuss “should.”

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                It only takes about a tenth grade level of understanding physics and chemistry to make a decent device from scratch. With the access Americans have to over the counter explosives (tannerite) and arduinos you only need enough of an education to know how to copy and paste code. Relying on people being uneducated isn’t a good strategy because these things are extremely easy to make. I work with some people that I question whether or not they can read who build effective devices with little to no effort.

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                  Exactly. Hitting 10th grade in American schools is only having basic knowledge. So therefore, they have no idea.

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            How would you know?

            Because I can read?

            What makes you think it’s difficult? There are entire telegram channels dedicated to teaching future, wannabe terrorists, you can find them yourself if you want.

            It’s been a threat for several decades and has only gotten easier and more sophisticated rather than more difficult.

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            A reasonably safe, fairly effective pipe bomb is easy to make with the some basic theory and high school chemistry knowledge. A moderately safe, highly effective pipe bomb requires only slightly more knowledge and a deeper understanding of high school chemistry. This stuff was easy enough that people were using it over half a thousand years ago to good effect. If you can’t figure it out now with a couple weeks effort and the breadth of knowledge at our disposal, that’s on you.

  • @[email protected]
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    “innocent people are having their pets eaten! I’m going to help by threatening to bomb the innocent people!”

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      Honestly if you’re going to be a terrorist why is no one bombing MaraLago. Seems like it’d be more productive

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        In America terrorists are too stupid to spend even a single brain cell coming up with a strategy besides “shoot up a school cuz that’s what they all do”.

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    Wouldn’t it be great if people in US reject this divisive asshole and were no longer agitated by random bs they here from people on tv?

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      Unfortunately, it’s really down to the residents of like 7 states. Residents of the other 43, functionally don’t have a vote.

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    I wish I could blame this one on Trump, but neo-Nazi crazies have been stoking this fire for a long time. And, honestly, good ol’ racism has been doing its work on this one from the beginning.

    Trump only latched onto it recently, thanks to that Nazi vampire Laura Loomer

    Edit: I apologize for being unclear— Trump is a monster and obviously responsible for the spreading of this lie. I was merely trying to speak to the rumor’s provenance and was very clumsy in my speech. I’m sorry.

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      Were the Republican nazis calling in bomb threats to Springfield before trump broadcast his fake news on air?

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        Maybe? Why don’t you find out and get back to us, troublemaker. I sure know the people stirring the shit are t helping… what’s your agenda?

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          You are the one making the claim. You could at least have spent a few seconds finding out if it’s true before you wrote it. Otherwise it’s just bullshit that you have pulled out of your arse.

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            I made no claim, silly ;)

            Trump and Laura Loomer did. Point your anger where it belongs— at them

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              I wish I could blame this one on Trump, but neo-Nazi crazies have been stoking this fire for a long time.

              In case you forgot what you wrote. Hope that helps.

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                Oh, right, and you somehow think that’s wrong? That’s neonazis aren’t behind this crazy race-baiting rumor?

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                  Bloody hell, just give it up. What is “this one” referring to if not the bomb threats in the title? If it’s not trump to blame for the bomb threats starting now, then you will be able to show them happening before trump jumped on the existing neo nazi bandwagon, right?

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                  No, that part is right. But I doubt we’d be getting bomb threats if Trump hadn’t opened his mouth to comment on it.

    • @[email protected]
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      I was talking to my 90 year old grandfather recently if the political climate has ever been this bad. He responded. “No, its never been this bad. Trump is an incendiary.”

      Trump absolutely takes a lot of blame in this. He heard something he thought would benefit him and repeated it tot the masses like it was fact.

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        It was pointed out to me just recently that my comment was unclear— YES, Trump is obviously to blame here. I was trying to comment on the provenance of the claim. I apologize for my clumsiness of speech.

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      No name racists on the internet vs former (and potential future) POTUS… Yeah you’re right, it’s tough to tell who is more responsible for spreading this particular bit of misinformation.

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        That’s not what I was saying, and why would you try to create divisiveness about that? What’s wrong with you?

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      Trump is to blame. When someone who half of the country blindly follows starts spewing slanderous venom, his followers will do the same. He’s been doing it for years on other random issues. They follow every time. And he knows it.

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        Yes, of course. Why does everything have to be a binary?

        I was discussing provenance, not “ultimate and solitary blame”

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          This is what you said:

          I wish I could blame this one on Trump, but neo-Nazi crazies have been stoking this fire for a long time.

          Sounds like you’re the one who made it a binary.

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            Perhaps I should have spoken more clearly then

            Edit: yeah, I see how that could be read the wrong way

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      but neo-Nazi crazies have been stoking this fire for a long time.

      Acting like Trump didn’t come in with a leaf blower and start blowing embers everywhere is just crazy to me.