• cmhe@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    When the current copyright comes from books, wouldn’t plugins or transient changes/cheats be like taking side notes with a pencil on their individual copy?

    Are side notes and annotations copyright infringements?

    I would love to see them argue that taking snarky side notes, which change the tone of their words, is copyright infringement.

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    Who ever thought of this?? “Cheats are copyright infringement” is such a stupid sentence… Not to forget the base line: if it’s not in a competitive environment, what the hell do they care if someone wants to play an easier Elden Ring, or skip the ‘grind 100 hours for this materials’ part??

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    11 hours ago

    [His] opinion asserts that manipulating transient data generated during gameplay through third-party software does not infringe copyright according to the EU’s Computer Programs Directive. This distinction between protecting a game’s code and the temporary data it generates is a very significant one for all developers of game-enhancing tools.

    The Advocate General also highlighted that the variable values in question are not original works of the game’s author but result from player interactions and game progression, which are unpredictable and dynamic. Since they depend on unforeseeable factors, these values lie beyond the author’s creative control.

    That is an interesting distinction, the code to generate your health total is copyright but the actual health value you modify with cheats is not.

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      10 hours ago

      The music on the CD is copyrighted, but you’re free to use the Bass Boost feature or whatever on the thing you’re playing the music from

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      I mean, this is a pretty normal distinction afaik (human vs non-human creations; afaik non-human creations almost always have any human copyright claims voided when challenged).

      Imo what makes this special is how precise he’s being. If I understand correctly, he’s basically saying that the code for the health bar is a human creation and protected by copyright, but while the code to change the health value might be human-made, the actual values are machine-made and not under copyright (there’s probably a lot of nuance I’m skipping over, but my understanding is that’s the gist of it).

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        Well, I think both are human creation, you are using the machine and the game to create something new. In that sense, a save game file could also be under the players copyright. Lets say a Minecraft world for instance.

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          What this is saying is that the Minecraft world would not be under copyright, but anything the player built in that world would be. So you can’t copyright the world itself, but you can copyright any human-made constructions in that world.

          This is wholly preferable to the alternative options which could result in things like being able to copyright AI-generated works (applying his logic to AI, they’re basically saying you can copyright any edits to an AI-gen image, but not the image itself because that was AI-gen).

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            I meant minecraft world file which stores the chunks the player explored and potentially modified. And I said “could” not “must”, it depends on if hits a certain creative threshold.

            If the player decides to teleport around while creating a dickbud or whatever by just the explored chunks, that could meet it.

            If someone selectivly openes quests to use the open quest markers on a map in an RPG to create a dickbud, that cloud meet it as well.

            The save game could tell your individual story through the game, that cloud meet the threshold as well.

            Also, because the unmodified minecraft world is randomly generated, it would not be under anyones copyright.

            With AI, there could also be made an argument that the selection process might make it copyrightable. Like if you take a picture of a interesting looking cloud. The clouds might be semi-random, but you selecting a specific one reaches the threshold.

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        8 hours ago

        What if the health values are human creations like special symbols or works of creative art?

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            I mean what if you didn’t use 20/100 for the value, you used a symbol (in the code as the value). Would it still apply?