• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    This is absolutely awesome: 👍😎

    Project Jengo is Cloudflare’s effort to fight back against patent trolls by flipping the incentive structure that has encouraged the growth of patent trolls who extract settlements out of companies using frivolous lawsuits. We do this by asking the public to help identify prior art that can invalidate any of the patents that a troll holds, not just the ones that are asserted against Cloudflare.

    Emphasis by me.

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      10 hours ago

      CloudFlare makes more than a billion dollars a year in revenue. The work done for this project is probably worth millions to them and they paid out $100,000. That sounds like bullshit to me. Let corporations hire lawyers instead of doing their work for a pittance.

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        They should have increased the payout. It should have been a percentage of what CF would have paid had they paid the troll.

        I don’t expect attorneys to be experts in technical work. Even those who are won’t have the same experience as the literal millions of techies out there who know really obscure technology.

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    12 hours ago

    Patents shouldn’t be valid for more than 5 years imo. If you can’t make a large enough profit from your idea in 5 years maybe it wasn’t that good or original.

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      11 hours ago

      The original idea with patents is to help protect small inventors from being run over by bigger corporations.
      But the result is more often the opposite, where small inventors that have a genuinely profitable novel product, is quickly forced to bankruptcy by frivolous patent suits, even when the new product is patented, and when bankrupt bought for peanuts by the bigger corp.

      The other main basis for patents is that the technology should not be lost, in case of the inventors death.
      But the way tech works today, that is no-longer relevant.

      5 year patent would absolutely be better than what we have IMO.

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        8 hours ago

        Same for copyright law. The point was to give creators a few years to profit from their work before it goes into public domain.

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        11 hours ago

        As someone who was awarded several patents, these things were not made to be a source of infinite money forever!

        Up there with our copyright law it’s a system that has been horribly abused to the benefit of super powerful corporations that run everything.

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          I have a friend who works for the city and invented a brilliant system to remove weed from pebble driveways, without using weed killers. They wrote an article in the local paper, and he was even awarded by the mayor.

          Several people recommended to him to patent his system, and he contacted a patent lawyer to do just that.
          The lawyer praised his idea, and stated he could make the paperwork to get the patent, for the small fee of some insane amount.
          Luckily he pulled out, and did not go forward.

          It turns out that his idea was already in production in Germany. The money to the patent lawyer would have been a complete waste.

          The moral of the story is, that the only sure winners on patents, are the lawyers.

          Edit PS:
          Another story, a guy had some patents he found out were being used by a really big company.
          He contacted the company to make an agreement on the use of his patents, and the response he got back was basically: “Sue us”.
          Those big companies have lawyers on their pay role, patent cases are insanely expensive, in part because patent lawyers are among the most expensive, and it’s near impossible to predict the outcome of a case. His chances of even affording the case were slim, and the chance of winning even if he was obviously right were even slimmer. Because the big company will just hire “experts” to claim non violation. And the little guy can’t afford to match it.

          So again the patents didn’t help the little guy.

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            That’s really cool! My invention was a means of accelerated processing for images that makes it cheaper to produce what used to be dedicated color processing chips for digital cameras. While these are no longer used today, it did find some applications. At this point there’s a few libraries out there implementing some of it as open source with my explicit permission in the hopes they might find some use in the future and contribute to society that way.

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              Cool, digital photography is an area that has had insane development IMO.
              I’m absolutely flabbergasted by the digital photography capabilities of modern phones. high res, image stabilization, and of course color mapping/filtering.
              The processing power needed is insane. 4K movies are 8 megapixel at 3 colors 30 fps, and it’s 750 million sub pixels, that need to be processed per second, and we do that on a cheap tiny handheld device! The better ones can handle 8K and that’s 3 Billion sub pixels per second!

              It’s impressive that you have been part of it. 👍 😎

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            10 hours ago

            Following your edit, I’m sorry to hear that the patent system couldn’t protect him. This isn’t the first case I’ve heard of. Honestly, you have to be rich, which I think is completely intentional to ensure that only big business can benefit from a patent.

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      7 hours ago

      Instead of a flat five years across the board, length of time could be variable based on assets and political connectedness

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      The quality of an invention has nothing to do with profitability. People actively fight competing products and ideas. A good invention is worth nothing unless you whore it out to existing industry