Julius Caesar was assassinated for wearing red boots. Barrack Obama was lambasted for wearing a tan suit. Purple is associated with royalty, white is associated with clergy, and gold is associated with superiority. Red and Blue have powerful meanings in America, and so does Green. Which colour is the most political in your opinion?

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    Drag is not going third person. Drag is using first person neopronouns. Drag is happy to teach you about grammar structures you’re unfamiliar with. Drag prefers drag’s pronouns over gender neutral pronouns like “I” because drag’s gender is not neutral.

    In Japan, there are multiple first person pronouns depending on the speaker’s identity and indeed the specifics of their current social situation. Like watashi, boku, and ore. Drag is doing that.

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      Also in Japan, if someone refers to themself with their own name, that’s seen as childish or arrogant.

      If your first person pronoun is the same as someone referring to you in third person, then you are referring to yourself in third person every time you refer to yourself in first person. And since the idea of a first person neopronoun is exceedingly rare, most people will only think of you as speaking in the third person.

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          Yes, but I don’t see how that’s relevant here.

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              Lmao…“Drag”, after it being revealed that the user is using it to refer to themself, looks like a short form of “Dragon”, which is part of their username.

              A shortened form of a nickname can be referred to as a “name”.

              But now it seems like they’re calling it a pronoun.

              There’s no idiocy involved in not speaking OP’s language.

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        Drag is not referring to dragself by drag’s name. Drag is referring dragself by the pronoun “drag”, while drag’s name is Dragon “Rider”. Drag would like to remind you that drag’s name is perfectly visible on your screen and you can read it whenever you like, so you don’t need drag’s help to know what drag’s name is.

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          You refer to yourself as “Drag”, which I understand is short for “Dragon”. And given your proclivities towards dragons, I have to assume this is intentional. So, yes, you are referring to yourself by your name, or at least a nickname.

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            Is drag to understand that your position is that pronouns cannot sound similar to the names of the people who have them?

            Somebody should tell Sheila and Hector they need to change their pronouns, then.

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              The problem is that you don’t know what a pronoun is. You should try writing a sentence with common pronouns first and see if your sentence makes any grammatical sense. For instance “is <name> to understand that…” doesn’t work, because “is me/I to understand” doesn’t work. You would instead say “Am drag to understand”, which while sounding a bit odd is at least actually writing in English.

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              There are people named Yuu, Mi and Ai. However:

              • They likely didn’t choose their name.
              • Their name only matches ONE pronoun they use, not ALL of a given person.
              • Their first person and third person pronouns aren’t the same.

              Think of the line “I am Gandalf, and Gandalf means me.” Ai would say “I am Ai, and Ai means me”, which sounds odd but hey ho. You would say “Drag is Drag, and Drag means drag”, which is borderline nonsense.

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                No, drag would say drag is Dragon “Rider”, and dragonfucker means drag.

                Drag is tired of listening to you being wrong about drag’s identity. Don’t you have to go be silly somewhere else?

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              […]Hector they need to change their pronouns, then.

              Yes, Hee-ctor

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                  Lmao…now I’m picturing He-Man talking like a caveman by replacing all of his personal pronouns with “He-Man”…but not conjugating the verbs as if he were speaking in the third-person.

                  He-man have the power!

                  Love it!