Well, this just got darker.

  • peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    15 hours ago

    I actually don’t think this is shocking or something that needs to be “investigated.” Other than the sketchy website that doesn’t secure user’s data, that is.

    Actual child abuse / grooming happens on social media, chat services, and local churches. Not in a one on one between a user and a llm.

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      It’s the “burn that witch” reaction.

      See how they hate pedophiles and not child rapists.

      The crowd wants to feel its power by condemning (and lynching if possible) someone.

      I’d rather want to investigate those calling for “investigation” and further violation of privacy of people who for all we know have committed no crime.

      That’s about freedom of speech and yelling “fire” in a crowded theater and thousand hills radio, you know the argument.

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      pedophiles are bad, if you think otherwise you’re pedophile enabling scum and are just as guilty as they are.

      edit: I’ll wear the down votes like a badge of honor if it means pedophiles that train their grooming habits against AI are branded as pedophiles.

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        See, imo this is the exact kind of thinking that makes pedophilia dangerous. Most people would agree that being attracted to children is a mental illness. Most people would agree that mental illnesses should be treated by a knowledgeable professional. But pedophilia is so stigmatized that someone even admitting they have a problem, one I very much doubt most of them want to have, has people calling for them to be drawn and quartered, regardless of if they’ve ever actually hurt anyone.

        Do I like that there’s art and writing of people having fantasies about children? No, of course not. But making it impossible for people to have a safe outlet, to even talk about it with a medical professional for fear of imprisonment, death threats, or worse, makes it so these people can’t even get the help they need. It’s like teaching abstinence only sex ed. You’re trying to get people to stop having fantasies by burying them, but it only exacerbates the issue.

        Edit: lol got your downvote less than five minutes in and the whole comment edited to just say “pedophiles bad.” I guess I, as you like to put it, “hit a nerve.”

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        If I get to know all that stuff about my neighbors, my neighbors get to know tons of information about me too.

        Hard pass. Wake me when someone commits a crime.

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        12 hours ago

        There are literally tv shows about how to get away with murder. Very popular ones. Those viewers don’t murder at a higher rate than others.

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        As a fiction writer, I do research on espionage, sabotage and even methods of assassination all the time. But I’m not going to make a salted bomb and nuke Jerusalem even though that is an entirely viable evil plot that may even create a net negative death toll.

        True poisoners, as Agatha Christie notes, use thallium, not arsenic nor cyanide (though ricin is good if you can get it.) Thallium assassins are also self-regulating, like demolitions experts, killing off those insufficiently careful when handling the stuff.

        Modern police are lazy until enough of a stink is made to find a culprit for a specific incident, which is why modern assassins targeting VIPs will find a self-radicalized desperado and point them toward the target. This is the sort of thing FBI is looking for in the investigations of Crooks and Routh. They are likely just blue suicides (or green suicides in this case) but finding a operative pointing them towards Trump would indicate an actual plot. But even if those tracks are found, it would unlikely lead to a specific identity.

        I know about this not just to write fiction, but also to understand how things happen, how our fall into one party autocracy and societal collapse plays out. And yes, it means I do a lot of web searches that might excite an onlooking behavioral research agent. Sadly, they’d find I’m yet another boring false positive, though if the nation does succumb to autocracy, I’d certainly write for the resistance. FBI may not care so much about that.

        We often look up creepy things just so see if we can, and we do that a lot more than because we’re eager to build a bomb or fast-track our inheritance.

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        instead of knowing someone in the neighborhood is researching how to get away with murder.

        …how would I know that?