Comments do drastically differ between .ml and .world. On .ml, you’ll see more sympathy towards Russia and China.
But the issue on hand is way bigger than that. It’s importance is not in Russia getting sanctioned somewhere else - it’s in the destruction of openness and trust in the open-source community, which has far more reaching consequences. What has been done is pretty unprecedented - and dangerous.
And I’m surprised other Linux communities are silent on the matter.
I can’t stress how much the western supremacists are off the rails on this one: agreeing with the standard sanctions policy commonly used by the US, of punishing entire civilian populations based on the actions of their government, regardless of how you feel about that government and its actions.
Code is code, the nationality of the person shouldn’t be used to exclude them. ppl know how most of us here feel about Israel but I would never even think of excluding an Israeli contributor to any of the projects I work on.
You act as if we killed your dog. There is nothing stopping you from moving on. You can jump to an instance that is more agreeable to you or you could create a big block list. However, lemmyml has earned a bad rep from the rest of the community.
@possiblylinux127@griefstricken I was working on bringing up a lemmy instance here, but after seeing the typical lemmy users I think I shall abandon the project.
Still worth while to do so, the trick is you need to defederate problematic instances. Not hide them, fully defederate. That stops problematic instances and communties from affecting your userbase. There’s many great Lemmy servers and communties out there. Just because a few of them aren’t great doesn’t mean you should dismiss all of them.
I haven’t made any arguments in this thread, you are putting words in my mouth, and not really helping your credibility. All I said is that the person should defederate Lemmy instances and communities which go against the mission of their instance. Something that almost all instance operators would likely agree on.
Just for the record though, I don’t believe people should be kicked out of a project based on their nationality, that seems incredibly xenophobic. I don’t know where you got that idea that I said any of those things from.
@griefstricken@Draconic_NEO I’ve seen more trolling from lemmy hosts than anything else here recently. I was going to add a lemmy site to my social media sites but this has convinced me that perhaps now is not the time. This time last year mastodon was a big problem but it has settled down, perhaps lemmy will in the future.
@griefstricken I see useful things happen on Reddit, can’t say I’ve seen a parallel in Lemmy so far. And I’m not sure I can get it to run in the configuration I want to, which is to say having it NOT on the same machine as the web server proxy or database.
The latest report that I saw was Russian attrition was nearing a collapsing rate in which the expected experience and levels of fatigue of renenforcments were to mean the expected casualty rates would climb exponentially on their side.
@griefstricken@fruitycoder I don’t think political change is even desirable, contrasted with Dmitry Medvedev and especially with Boris Yeltsin and Mikhail Gorbachev before him and pretty much the farther back you go the worse it gets, Konstantin Chernenko, Yuri Andropov, I mean farther back you go the worse they get. I think Putin really has been the most willing to work with us if we had only returned the same in kind, as any Russian leader in history. As for political change, though I do not think it will come as a result the political will of the people, sure he has his detractors but think most people are not unhappy with him, where it’s likely to come is simply the fact that he is 72 years old, we don’t know the state of his health or how long it will hold up.
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Comments do drastically differ between .ml and .world. On .ml, you’ll see more sympathy towards Russia and China.
But the issue on hand is way bigger than that. It’s importance is not in Russia getting sanctioned somewhere else - it’s in the destruction of openness and trust in the open-source community, which has far more reaching consequences. What has been done is pretty unprecedented - and dangerous.
And I’m surprised other Linux communities are silent on the matter.
I can’t stress how much the western supremacists are off the rails on this one: agreeing with the standard sanctions policy commonly used by the US, of punishing entire civilian populations based on the actions of their government, regardless of how you feel about that government and its actions.
Code is code, the nationality of the person shouldn’t be used to exclude them. ppl know how most of us here feel about Israel but I would never even think of excluding an Israeli contributor to any of the projects I work on.
Are they excluding contributions or maintainer status?
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@mindbleach @Allero From what I’m seeing from Lemmy, I would estimate the wackadoodle’s to be much higher than 50%.
The other half of what’s wrong with .ml is the blatant censorship all over the goddamn site.
The userbase’s downvote-happy inability to take criticism barely matters.
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If you make your points with less belittlement, we mods will have to spend less time fielding reports.
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You act as if we killed your dog. There is nothing stopping you from moving on. You can jump to an instance that is more agreeable to you or you could create a big block list. However, lemmyml has earned a bad rep from the rest of the community.
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@possiblylinux127 @griefstricken I was working on bringing up a lemmy instance here, but after seeing the typical lemmy users I think I shall abandon the project.
Still worth while to do so, the trick is you need to defederate problematic instances. Not hide them, fully defederate. That stops problematic instances and communties from affecting your userbase. There’s many great Lemmy servers and communties out there. Just because a few of them aren’t great doesn’t mean you should dismiss all of them.
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I haven’t made any arguments in this thread, you are putting words in my mouth, and not really helping your credibility. All I said is that the person should defederate Lemmy instances and communities which go against the mission of their instance. Something that almost all instance operators would likely agree on.
Just for the record though, I don’t believe people should be kicked out of a project based on their nationality, that seems incredibly xenophobic. I don’t know where you got that idea that I said any of those things from.
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@griefstricken @Draconic_NEO I’ve seen more trolling from lemmy hosts than anything else here recently. I was going to add a lemmy site to my social media sites but this has convinced me that perhaps now is not the time. This time last year mastodon was a big problem but it has settled down, perhaps lemmy will in the future.
No, you are wrong!
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@griefstricken I see useful things happen on Reddit, can’t say I’ve seen a parallel in Lemmy so far. And I’m not sure I can get it to run in the configuration I want to, which is to say having it NOT on the same machine as the web server proxy or database.
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The latest report that I saw was Russian attrition was nearing a collapsing rate in which the expected experience and levels of fatigue of renenforcments were to mean the expected casualty rates would climb exponentially on their side.
@fruitycoder @griefstricken Yes MSNBC has been claiming this for oh the last two years.
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@griefstricken @fruitycoder I don’t think political change is even desirable, contrasted with Dmitry Medvedev and especially with Boris Yeltsin and Mikhail Gorbachev before him and pretty much the farther back you go the worse it gets, Konstantin Chernenko, Yuri Andropov, I mean farther back you go the worse they get. I think Putin really has been the most willing to work with us if we had only returned the same in kind, as any Russian leader in history. As for political change, though I do not think it will come as a result the political will of the people, sure he has his detractors but think most people are not unhappy with him, where it’s likely to come is simply the fact that he is 72 years old, we don’t know the state of his health or how long it will hold up.
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@griefstricken Prior to nuclear weapons perhaps but that kind of takes the humor out of it.
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