I’ve been reading that BlueSky has reached critical mass and is snowballing well at the moment. I suspect it has drawn people away from the fedi and back into the loving embrace of venture capitalists.
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I gave Mastodon a couple of tries but I don’t think I lasted more than a few days in either instance. I’m just really not into that style of social media, regardless of who the provider of the service is. I do not understand the point of it nor how to “correctly” interact with it.
I also found Mastodon to be extremely confusing and so has every person that I have directed to it. Mastodon’s website and docs do a very poor job explaining how it works to people who are not already in-the-know about federated services. Lemmy was a bit confusing too but I had a much easier time grasping it - although that could be because I have more experience with Reddit-styled websites.
I wish it all the best because it seems like people are just making moves to other VC-owned, private, enshittified platforms that will abuse/exploit their users. I want Mastodon to succeed but often feel like it doesn’t doing much to help its own case.
No. I don’t trust another corporate-owned platform, and I don’t trust the way they pay lip service to federation while still making everything dependent on one central server they control.
I’m using Masto a few times a day and I generally like it. I get a good mix of news and pictures. I joined after Twitter became X.
I’m not on Bsky but frankly reading the comments in this thread makes me consider it
Neither, I never used Twitter in the first place so I didn’t need a Twitter alternative.
I think the Lemmy/Reddit style of posts and comments is much more intuitive and makes for easier engagement than the Twitter style of rolling status updates.Along this line of thinking, I use Lemmy and Mastodon as complementary rather than competing, but not in the way people want/use X/Bluesky. Lemmy (reddit) is great for the use as you outline, Mastodon (and Pixelfed) supply a visual experience if you make it work that way and don’t expect/want an X like experience (so think more Instagram). Lemmy lacks multireddits which could solve some of this Mastodon use case, on reddit I have a multireddit named “Gallery” which combines a dozen picture-only subreddits.
One can follow hashtags like
#photographyor#catsofmastodon, discover like-minded profiles who only post pictures and minimal talk/chatter (a lot of actual skilled photographers are present) and follow those profiles. It provides an experience that rounds out Lemmy, but I do admit I would love a “gallery” like view in the apps to streamline the hashtag viewing (Pixelfed does this specifically, but people are spread all over the planet - Mastodon proper pulls in federated data easier, IMHO)
Once in a blue moon I remember that I have a Mastodon account. And I use it mostly because of the cross-compatibility with other Fediverse applications, something that Bluesky lacks.
I suspect it has drawn people away from the fedi and back into the loving embrace of venture capitalists.
I think so, too. Even people who understand what federation is and why it’s good are still affected by network effect; “it’s federated” might weight a lot for them, but it is not a perfect shield.
Even though there is some network effect just in terms of there being much less content on the threadiverse than Reddit, I do feel like this is something we’re somewhat shielded from. For the most part, we’re not here to follow specific people: my friends aren’t on Lemmy/Mbin, or maybe they are, I don’t actually know or care. I have a Mastodon, but a lot of the people I’d theoretically be interested to follow are still on Twitter, or BlueSky, or Threads or something. It’s not enough of a pull factor to make me join any of those, but it’s probably why I barely use Mastodon.
Instead of “shielded” I think that a more accurate word would be that we have a “buffer”. The network effect still applies to us, as much as it does in the microblogging side of the Fediverse; it’s just indirectly (more people → more content → more people), in a way that content produced here in the past still might attract users in the future.
At least bluesky has bridges
I used to be a staunch mastodon fanboy, but honestly I’m starting to lean towards Bluesky nowadays.
Sure there’s only one big company controlling all the instances, but their federation system has solved a lot of the pain points that have been plagueing Mastodon. I can actually follow artists on it without having to deal with mastodon.art.
And hey, it’s an easy to use social media to use for the “normies” rather that the techie Mastodon.
Bsky has actual people from twitter I wanted to follow that never bothered with mastodon
This is it for me. I don’t ever post on Twitte/Mastodon/Bluesky, it’s entirely read only for me, and the feeds I want to follow are finally starting to migrate to Bluesky. They never considered Mastadon.
This, plus bsky seems to have a more active sports culture compared to mastodon so, although I’ve been in mastodon for a couple years, I’m already kind of enjoying bsky more.
Caveat: I’ve literally only been on bsky for less than a week so the activity over there could absolutely be temporary, we’ll see.
misskey still clears
I’m on it, but only for the novelty currently. Sports haven’t really taken off here yet, and I crave some interaction while watching. Instead of going back to Reddit, I’ll shit post there and once it develops here or a better alternative comes up, I’ll jump ship. Not a Twitter format fan.
Why would a person not just use both? You don’t have to just pick one.
Eh. For me, personally, it’s just too much to manage. I don’t want to post and check replies on two different platforms for the same thing.
You don’t have to. Engage with platforms on your own terms. Letting the platform (and I mean that broadly - ANY platform, including Lemmy) dictate your engagement is legitimately not good for anyone’s mental state. It’s healthier to be aware of your usage and try to self-limit when and where possible. Humans weren’t designed to be as chronically-online as we have become. I struggle with this dynamic myself, tbh.
No because why would I?
Yes. I used both and I just didn’t stick around in Masto.
Honestly, Masto is fine but the firehose is too fast for a system without good filtering tools. I ened up on a multicolumn layout where one of the columns was frequently NSFW and at least a couple of others were entirely dominated by insular “why is Mastodon so cool and everything else so crap” weird sunk cost propaganda.
And to be clear, I did keep a BS account to follow a bunch of celebrities from old Twitter, but I actually hang out more here than I do in BS. It’s just I do both far more than Masto.
@Jezebelley While it’s disappointing that communities I’m interested in seem to have moved there - I have zero interest in using something that will inevitably become enshittified.
This is exactly my training, too.
Venture capitalists funded it, and when their money runs out, they must be paid.
Bluesky users will be advertised to. Their information will be sold. No thanks!
@Jezebelley
Why would I do that? I can’t leave comments on Lemmy posts and Peertube videos from there!I think people just are fed up with Twitter and are looking for the most twitter-like thing they can find. Mastodon is, frankly, nothing like Twitter. The vibes are too different.
I have a Mastodon, but I don’t use it that much.
I never even bothered to sign up for BlueSky. At least as of me writing this comment.
