Denuvo = 🤮

  • teuto@lemmy.teuto.icu
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    The cracks, they don’t remove our protection. The cracks still have all our code in and all our code is executed. There is even more code on top of the cracked code - that is executing on top of our code, and causing even more stuff to be executed. So there is technically no way that the cracked version is faster than the uncracked version

    That’s some bigly code there.

    • Nibodhika@lemmy.world
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      The code is there, yes, but it’s skipped entirely, so the binary size stays the same, but it’s faster because it skips parts. The big brain on the person that wrote that must also tell him that skipping a scene on a movie means the movie takes the same time because it’s the entirety of the movie plus the skipping of the scene.

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    That guy rubbed me the wrong way especially at the end talking about how you can’t trust people “related to the pirating scene” and their claims about Denuvo, but you can totally trust the people who make it and need to make money off it.

    Also the Denuvo dude referencing a study and using it to show why companies need Denuvo and then walking it back and saying he doesn’t trust the study because it also shows that after 3 months it’s useless was honestly just kind of funny.

    I guess since I’ve pirated a game before I’m “related to the scene” so my opinion therefore is invalid in the eyes of the all mighty denuvo but I hope they crash and burn, and if it’s true that they hire the people who crack their games I hope they fuck it up from the inside while getting paid.

    • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      What do you expect from RPS, Kotaku, IGN, and the rest of the games “journalists”? Journalistic integrity?

      That would require an actual journalism degree.

    • Th4tGuyII@fedia.io
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      Exactly. Labeling their critics as salty pirates and dismissing them out of hand shows how disingenuous they are…

      Though that’s to be expected considering they cherrypicked the hell out of the study they were referencing, then criticised it because the authors dared to suggest that Denuvo was only important for the first couple of months of a game’s lifespan

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          No it’s not. It’s pretty explicitly not, by the guy who is most famous for talking about piracy as a service problem:

          Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem.

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    Calling all their critics salty pirates is one surefire way to pit people against you real quick - especially when you’re already pretty reviled by the gaming community

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    I wonder how it feels putting all this work into these protections only for your game to get cracked anyway.

    It’s almost like this strategy doesn’t actually work.

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      I imagine it must feel pretty good if you are a soulless greedy asshole without any morals to sell a useless product and still get paid for it.

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    Most games with denuvo are not even worth playing. If you are scared of piracy, then your game fucking sucked to begin with.

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      I just read that Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 has apparently said it’s gonna use Denuvo. It’s the first time a game that’s been on my radar has used it to my knowledge. I saw some comments where people said they’ll just wait a year until it’s removed and then buy it. Fuck that. You screw me over at release and I’ll just pirate it. I still haven’t finished the first game so waiting until it’s cracked is no issue.

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        I’m willing to bet most people haven’t finished the first one like you, because that game is fucking boring as hell. I know that’s why I never finished it lol. Historical accuracy =/= fun.

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          I honestly find their “historical accuracy” claims kinda comical. Yeah it’s better than most games for sure, but it still only pays lip service to accuracy in a lot of aspects for the sake of the game’s story. Henry has a completely fantastical rise from blacksmith’s apprentice to de facto military commander.

          No, I did really enjoy it. I just don’t spend an enormous amount of time gaming, and the time I do spend is most often in completely different genres that I can play with friends while chatting on Discord, like RTS (Age of Empires mostly) and survival crafters (like Raft and DST).

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        Yeah, there’s so many games now, I can easily fill time before games are actually in a release state… a year after they actually released.

        If they add denuvo they are clearly not very confident their game is worth the price they are asking, so why should we believe it’s worth that much?

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    So people that wont ever buy the game still never buy the game and the rest of us have to put up with Denuvo. What a moronic argument. Let’s ignore the added security risks of a kernel level anticheat.