Though this isn’t about conservatism, is it? Trump doesn’t like democracy and half of the things that shaped the USA. I mean there is some overlap but he should be opposed by any sane conservative. I think it’s more a dip towards fascism or something else.
Can be a bit of both. Everything is prompted by a desire to return to the “before” times. For Trump’s supporters, that is a hypothetical, undefined time when America was “great”. For the Brexiters in the UK, that was the pre-EU period when Britain was a global empire. For the conservatives in Russia, it is the yearning for the USSR days.
Fair enough. I always hope we’ll move towards a better future… And not backwards. But you’re right. You pick some random time in history and then make up some policies that supposedly get you back to that place. And an additional psychological factor is, most of us had our best time when we were young, life was easier, less work and less consequence. So we might want that back instead of our current, more complex life.
“Any sane conservative,” as if every conservative party worldwide hasn’t been trending this way. Hey buddy? This is conservatism. This is what they’re actually about. Stop letting them invent their own reputation. They don’t give a shit about the past, they don’t give a shit about norms, they don’t give a shit about the law. They don’t mean things when they say words. It’s all just a game to seize power for the ingroup and stick it to the outgroup.
I don’t think the conservative party from where I live has shifted. They occasionally do some fishing with the far-right, yes. But no outrageous change to what they did before.
And judging by the numbers, I’d say there must have been some sane people voting Republican, too. If you have a combined >50% complete nutjobs and insane people in the population, even in the cities … you’re completely F*ed. That’d be pretty much unfixable.
Though this isn’t about conservatism, is it? Trump doesn’t like democracy and half of the things that shaped the USA. I mean there is some overlap but he should be opposed by any sane conservative. I think it’s more a dip towards fascism or something else.
Can be a bit of both. Everything is prompted by a desire to return to the “before” times. For Trump’s supporters, that is a hypothetical, undefined time when America was “great”. For the Brexiters in the UK, that was the pre-EU period when Britain was a global empire. For the conservatives in Russia, it is the yearning for the USSR days.
Fair enough. I always hope we’ll move towards a better future… And not backwards. But you’re right. You pick some random time in history and then make up some policies that supposedly get you back to that place. And an additional psychological factor is, most of us had our best time when we were young, life was easier, less work and less consequence. So we might want that back instead of our current, more complex life.
“Any sane conservative,” as if every conservative party worldwide hasn’t been trending this way. Hey buddy? This is conservatism. This is what they’re actually about. Stop letting them invent their own reputation. They don’t give a shit about the past, they don’t give a shit about norms, they don’t give a shit about the law. They don’t mean things when they say words. It’s all just a game to seize power for the ingroup and stick it to the outgroup.
That’s all it has ever been, for them.
That’s all they think you’re doing.
I don’t think the conservative party from where I live has shifted. They occasionally do some fishing with the far-right, yes. But no outrageous change to what they did before.
And judging by the numbers, I’d say there must have been some sane people voting Republican, too. If you have a combined >50% complete nutjobs and insane people in the population, even in the cities … you’re completely F*ed. That’d be pretty much unfixable.
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