ID: 4 panels:

  1. A self righteous person holds their hand up and says “Violence is never the solution.”

  2. Stephie replies with a smile “Oh! So you agree that we shouldn’t give weapons to the police?”

  3. She adds “And that we should dismantle the army?”

  4. Stephie is now right up behind the other person, looking angry, saying “Or did you mean that violence is only a solution when it helps maintain the status quo?”. The other person looks deeply uncomfortable.

Credit: Sophie Labelle

  • Ogmios
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    1 day ago

    Perhaps, instead of trying to turn everything in life into a “gottcha” moment, an honest person could recognize that such a saying speaks to how violence should be a last resort, while still maintaining a sober recognition that we live in a world where there are many others who may not respect our opinions on the matter, and therefore we should remain prepared to confront the eventuality of conflicts arising with such people.

    • horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world
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      We should also realize that fascists hide behind “peaceful” rhetoric and play the victim. See Nick Fuentes for a recent example.

    • zaph
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      1 day ago

      violence should be a last resort

      Still doesn’t explain why every single cop gets a gun instead of just something like swat.

      • Ogmios
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        19 hours ago

        You have to be a little bit smarter than just taking isolated phrases on their own, if you want to actually explore the how and the why of the function of an entire society.

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          4 hours ago

          You have to be a little bit smarter

          No I don’t.

      • TriflingToad
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        21 hours ago

        In the case of an active shooter you want someone there instantly. Every second is a higher risk of life lost. SWAT takes like 30m to an hour to set up, they’re for more tactical or planned situations. A cop can be there in like 5 mins depending on the location.

        The goal is that cops get there and
        a: rush in and take care of the suspect (dead or alive), or
        b: get the suspect barricaded

        which at that point they can call SWAT in to de-escalate with the phones they throw in windows or megaphones.

        • Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee
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          18 hours ago

          Hmmm. And in the case of Uvalde? How many seconds did those children endure?

          Your premise was dead on arrival as the courts have repeatedly signaled that police have no obligation to serve or protect anyone.

          Crime is a function of economic disparity. If cops really wanted to bust drugs, or always have a criminal to collar, all they’d have to do is raid any financial firm in any major city. They’ve all got booger sugar in their desks, and wage theft remains the most widely unenforced crime in the US. So obviously, the logic tells us that cops are not crime solvers, they are there to perpetuate socioeconomic status quo.

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            19 hours ago

            so instead you’d rather shooters have full access to school for 30+ minutes while SWAT panics from the next town over? Like I get that one option isn’t good but I’d rather have cops than nothing.

            I’ve literally had someone in MY LUNCH PERIOD with a gun at school literally last year. If they decided they wanted to start firing they’d have literally 500+ kids in that cafeteria, myself included.

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              4 hours ago

              Ideally access to guns would be more strictly regulated across the board and not just with cops. But the thing you’re complaining about is literally happening right now even with every cop having a gun so your emotional response isn’t going to work on me.

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      1 day ago

      The statement is mostly uttered by people who just turn a blind eye to the violence enacted everyday by the system. Get off your high horse.

      • Ogmios
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        1 day ago

        instead of trying to turn everything in life into a “gottcha” moment