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Capitalism is cancer, no it really is. It’s a system demanding infinite growth in a finite system. What the fuck else would you call that?
I thought capitalism was just that the market should be open.
I didn’t recall any mentions of infinite growth.
There’s really no point arguing with someone who thinks in memes, and definitely not with someone who leads with “Capitalism is cancer.” But business does have a “grow or die” philosophy, which could be what the person means by misapplying the term “infinite”. The mainstream business world knows literally infinite growth isn’t possible - although many people in business don’t see or acknowledge specific limits, or think they’re so far away they can be treated as infinite right now.
This, they keep thinking profits have to go up indefinitely, so they raise it far beyond what can be reasonably accounted for inflation. Then they wonder why no one’s buying.
The idea that “people need to afford your product” doesn’t register to these clowns.
Except that’s not what’s happening - people still ARE buying, and that’s why jacked-up covid prices have stayed high. Companies found that ridiculously high prices didn’t hurt sales, so they see no reason to roll them back. Amazingly it turns out Econ 101 doesn’t represent immutable laws of physics.
Except they aren’t and so many companies are hemorrhaging money.
If that’s all it was or if that was actually what it was, but the markets aren’t open. They’re closed off to anyone but the rich
No, but it follows. It’s what the open market demands.
But srsly there are best times of the year to buy a lot of things. For example, Christmas decorations are marked way down right after Christmas, and TVs are discounted right before the Super Bowl. Month-by-month guide
I read this meme in an anti-semitic voice.
“Damn Valve, pick a price…”
Here in Europe they’re forced to show the lowest price of the last 30 days and I was looking at some games in GoG and for several interesting games their Black Friday “discounted” price is €15 whilst the lowest price in the last 30 days is €10.
So the Black Friday “discount” is in fact 50% more expensive than the previous time that game had a “discount” which happenned not even that long ago.
Oh look, another reason why Europe is superior
Most companies have adapted to that by now. The raise the orice for (at least) rhirty days so that it still looks legit.
The one in your example seems like a failure at that.
That’s regionally specific then, because they sure as hell don’t do that where i live (EU member). They have to compare with non-sale price within a month or something, so it’s complete bullshit here because they artificially inflate prices prior to black Friday “sales”.
I’m in Canada and I see it.
Canada is my favorite member of the EU
I wish we were part of the EU
Guess I’ve just chosen the right country to point my VPN to then :)
Sounds sweet, which country is it
Actually I just checked GoG without going through a VPN (from work) and I see the same “Lowest price in the last 30 days before discount” information, so maybe GoG just does it for all of Europe or maybe even always.
In other words, I don’t think is going via na IP in that specific country that’s doing it.
It’s probably just something GoG does, since we have it in the states too.
One more reason to, when having the choice, prefer GoG over the rest.
This is why camelcamelcamel.com is great
Keppa is a bit better imo. A lot of price history goes back pre covid (not like it matters I just find it interesting to see), camelcamelcamel doesn’t. IIRC had something to do with Amazon making them
Yeah, always gotta check price history. Especially on Aliexpress.
Was looking at buying a particular retro game emulator handheld. Black friday pricing was the same as non-black-friday pricing, but it was “discounted” from $300, which it has never actually been sold at. Still bit the bullet and bought it because it did end up decently cheaper using one of their “spend $x and get $y off” coupons.
While you do need to be careful about this bullshit, things do actually often hit lows for black Friday sales. Particularly electronics.
I went clothes shopping in the US today and saved 496 dollars with all the coupons and sales, and got mountains of stuff. I always do it that way, but I shop the day after Black Friday and the deals are still the same. US department stores on holiday long weekends are the best deal ever, I save money all year and go for a great big shop.
But definitely double check SKUs. A lot of Black Friday products are more cheaply made than their usual counterparts, even if they outwardly seem like the same product.
I used to work at Best Buy in the Video department. We got all new products shipped in just for Black Friday. One year we got these $40 VCRs (I realize I’m dating myself here) that we must have sold a billion of. Within the week, we had so many returns that we didn’t have any place to put them.
Similarly Best Buy’s brand, Insignia, is a mix mashed TV full of components from other TV brands (unless that has changed in the last 4 years). They’re usually the ones to go on deep discount but, due to the nature of the internals not being from one company, they’re nearly impossible to repair.
So, although your Insignia may last a year and a half or two, the Sharp panel may fail, the Phillips backlight could fail, or the PCB from Samsung could fail, adding to more e-waste.
I’ve read this for years but never personally seen it.
TVs are a classic example. I found luggage accidentally one time years ago. Was so poorly made I was shocked it hasn’t disintegrated in transit. Immediately returned it. When I did some research, it looked like none had ever actually sold off that SKU until Black Friday, and they had a stupid price listed months before hand for that deep discount the day of.
Check out black friday tvs, then look them up online. Won’t take long to find one that’s “cheap”
I saw it when I worked retail (which was a long time ago, so I guess as an anecdote, add an extra grain of salt; maybe things have changed but I doubt it).
We would get pallets of product right before Black Friday, and curiously, they would overlap with product we already had in the store. For example, if we carried a 40" TV from brand X (TVs are very notorious for this Black Friday swapping), we’d get a pallet of 40" TVs from brand X which looked exactly the same, had the same specs on the box, but a different SKU. In some cases we were instructed to remove the original stock and replace it with the Black Friday stock, which would be priced lower.
As others have mentioned, returns on the sale stock would be high. And there would be interesting differences, like an obviously cheaper remote or an overall lighter unit.
And of course sometimes there was no overlap – we’d get some product from some no name brand that just sat out in the aisle on its pallet. These were absolutely only brought in for Black Friday and I have to assume they were the cheapest imaginable garbage inside.
I’ve never sought out a Black Friday sale since those days.
Yep, most smart home stuff I would not recommend buying for the regular prices.
I’ve gotten a lot of cheap electronics in early January too.
You gotta track stuff you want to buy ahead of the pre-sale price hikes. Depending on where you live, what you want to buy and how much money you make that might be too much time and energy so checking price history sites (like camelcamelcamel for amazon) when they’re available also works in a pinch.
For like the first ten of them and you have to get to the store 6 hours before it opens and then fight gladiator matches with all the other crazy people to be at the cash register first. No thanks, man!
Wrong decade.
That very much still happens. I have not seen any killer deals online. Have you?
Depends on what you’re looking for. I got a tablet half off.
Awesome! Congratulations!
at least you said “the other crazy people”
I’ve learned my lesson. I bought a graphics card and a monitor a few weeks ago. They were the kinds of desirable purchases that were never going to get discounted on Black Friday.
I bought two hard drives when Trump got elected.
They’re still the same price.
Idk, I bought a 4k 240 hz oled monitor for $300 off for black Friday, the lowest price it’s ever been. I think deals are still out there.
Deals are there, many are not worth the wait and the real (good) deals are often less desireable items.
At least from what i’ve seen myself.
But i always hope the more expensive stuff gets a discount so i can get something better than what i would’ve bought otherwise.
Right now there are a couple 4080 super’s discounted but it’s only like €80 difference for a model i would only buy if the difference was larger, so i almost ended up buying a non discounted 4080 super model.
4k 240 hz OLED
300$ offSo it was a 10% discount ? /s
If you happen to be in the US, better to make those sorts of purchases now before prices go up under tariffs.
Been watching a new GPU for the last week, waiting for my paycheck to come in
35% discount, steepest in it’s history according to CCC, holds right until this morning, payday, now it’s a 5% discount
Its not the usual scummy price shit but I’m def pissed off
May as well wait just a little longer…
If you have to wait until payday to buy a discounted graphics card…yeah, I’d say so.
Most price changes I have seen goes like this:
September: 300
Start of november: 500
Black friday: 250 - 50% off!
What I’ve seen many times (and what often still is a pretty good deal)
- JAN: product X, 1100 bucks
- FEB: product X EOL. last items BUY NOW - 20%!
- MAR
- APR
- MAY
- JUN
- JUL
- AUG
- SEP
- OCT: some warehouse: Fuck. Is that a a stash of product X?
- NOV: BLACK FRIDAY WEEK! Product X -45%! LIMITED STOCK!
In the UK, Which (a consumer group) did a study. I think 90% of products were cheaper or same price at other parts of the year.
The only thing cheaper is usually the shit that no one wants that they cannot shift, or those 5 TVs at the start of the day that make people believe there are good deals available.
Do you think you have a link for it, I’d help me in a policy paper I’m helping write.
Thanks
