Literally had some apologist neoliberal try to scold everyone yesterday for finding satisfaction in this because Brian had two kids.
His policies KILLED kid’s parents, solely to increase private shareholder profits.
Their parents had to die because Brian’s ego score line had to go up faster. 🤷
And unlike his kids, the kids whose parents he killed largely don’t have blood drenched trust funds to support themselves materially.
Not just parents dying but kids too. It was this guy’s responsibility to make sure the people who managed the company would refuse as much life saving care for children as possible. I do not endorse anyone to commit murder ever, but I won’t be shedding any tears when a monster like that is shot down. I do think it’s okay to feel some sympathy for his kids, but they’re wealthy. They’ll probably be okay in time.
The kids are innocent in this and I don’t see why feeling bad for them is incompatible with being ok with their father’s death.
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I wonder how much was really lost. What type of father do you think he would be? Loving? Empathetic? Caring? Supportive?
More likely he was a cunt who was probably never home.
Thoughts and prayers though.
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Maybe, but the lives he took also had value.
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You might be right. It’s easy shit to say when it’s just a name on a screen.
I really don’t care that he died, and it does seem like a net positive.
Honestly, I’m glad that guy is dead, and if that makes me a bad person I guess I’ll just have to live with that.
Hard to feel bad when a Machiavellian asshole like that actually suffers consequences. Sucks that he was immune to consequences from the legal system with all that money. If that wasn’t the case he might still be alive to go to jail.
fuck that guy. more of them need to die. shooter isn’t a villain, he’s a god damned hero.
Thoughts and prayers for his victims and their loved ones.
I used to work in medical billing and dealing with UHC denied claims was the absolute worst. I’m actually surprised that the denial rate is 32%. It seemed much higher.
I feel like someone should compile a list of suspects (read: denied claims) and read them off loudly at every memorial event for him.
Where’s the Westboro Baptist Church when we need them? Getting punched by rich people would be a nice lawsuit.
Your claim for prayers has been denied.
And the thoughts?
Thoughts require pre-approval, which he did not seek.
Today we mourn @el_abuelo as he was not able to get proper treatment. UHC had denied his claim for prayers, but it took months to even get that, and by the time they were ready to make a judgement on thoughts, he had passed away.
Why is he on a cloud? A fire would have been more fitting?
Smoke cloud from the fire.
May the shareholders be with him
Literally
Kaiser’s is artificially low because of the vertical integration.
Is that true? My initial thought was that it’s because Kaiser Permanente is a nonprofit. Unless I am mistaken.
Yes, it’s true. Its nominal “nonprofit” status doesn’t stop it from being a major market competitor with a history of regulatory capture, paying its CEO more than other insurance companies do, and having vast cash reserves, for example.
No, of course it doesn’t… but I imagine when you don’t have a profit motive, your motive to deny claims also decreases.
Just a theory though.
The problem is that they still have an apparent profit motive.
They do, but it’s obviously not nearly as disgusting as the rest.
My spouse works for PPO insurer and has worked for Aetna, and she always jump on my Kaiser plan if I work for an employer that offers it. Her coworkers often do the same.
All healthcare in the US is embarrassingly bad, but Kaiser often does cover more and charges less than comparable PPO plans. Problem is, navigating it can be tricky if you’re used to PPO life.
We’re with Aetna right now. We fucking hate it. The love to force out of pocket payments for preventative care. Aetna rather you just hury up and die so they don’t have to pay for you.
My main concern with Kaiser is that it severely limits the pool of covered doctors and specialists. All the Kaiser plans I’ve seen also have higher out-of-pocket maxima with zero out-of-network coverage.
Covered doctors and specialists… out of network… people on Reddit kept telling me my socialised universal multi-payer healthcare by statutory health insurance, would mean I could not see the doctor I wanted and would wait forever for services. And sure, for everything that’s not immediately necessary I do wait some time. But for all things acute I can go to any general practitioner who will either provide immediate help or forward me to a specialist for immediate help. No matter where in my country I am, no matter which hospital, GP or specialist I go to, everything important is covered. And I pay less per month for it than Americans do.
Don’t worry, we already know… None of it makes sense in any context besides “making money for corporations and wealthy stock holders”
Out of curiosity, what country?
The limited of out-of-network coverage is kind of the point of Kaiser. There are some times that they’ll do it if they’ve understaffed in a specialist’s area, if it’s emergency / trauma care, etc. But the main point is to try to keep things within the non-profit network, and to limit the cost creep imposed by the for-profit healthcare providers.
As for out-of-pocket, that really depends on the plan you’re buying or your employer is negotiating. When I was picking a Kaiser plan, I was usually choosing between similar PPO offerings with comparable out-of-pocket.
My wife and I, and many of her insurance coworkers, have found that the PPO plans often hide the costs. It looks good on paper at first, but the TOS about what is and isn’t covered can often be much more profit-driven in the PPO space. And you often don’t learn about these details until you need care or a medication.
So it’s the vertical integration.
Isn’t Kaiser multiple SEPARATE entities? For example their multiple doctor/medical groups are FOR PROFIT and Kaiser (the insurance company portion) is NON-PROFIT? Complicated structure, but I’ve always seen and heard good things from Kaiser. Sure there are complaints just like for any company that deals with healthcare, but Kaiser always seems like the best option.
Good ole Kaiser
You know, I’ve had my gripes with them, but they have not once denied a claim for me. I even had a fully covered precautionary MRI because a couple of my family members have died suddenly from aneurysms in the past.
I’m positive UHC would have said “LOL that sucks. Good luck tho!”
I started with Kaiser, switched employer and had Anthem. Switched again and went back to Kaiser. My experience was just better with them. And yes, I prefer universal healthcare to this BS.
And yes, I prefer universal healthcare to this BS.
Oh, by leaps and bounds. I think most Americans would absolutely agree with you, if they weren’t poisoned by propaganda and “Obama care bad.”
I recall when Bernie briefly forced the subject into the public consciousness before the Dems forced him out and buried it again, there was a study done on this. It found that when universal healthcare was described in plain language without buzzwords that have been poisoned by propagandists, something like 70-80% of Amerians support it.
They don’t deny claims, they just refuse to let you see a specialist that would generate the claims in the first place.
Perhaps the 9mm pistol is the guillotine of the next American revolution.
A horrible human being died yesterday
Damn I thought Aetna was terrible. I mean, they absolutely are, but I didn’t think other companies would be that much worse.
Why is he on a cloud? Why isn’t he on fire?
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