• sugar_in_your_tea
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        Tagalog is a lot closer, the only gendered words are Spanish loan words (except maybe mom/dad), because of course they are.

        Pronouns:

        • he/she - siya
        • his/her - niya

        Relations (add “na lalaki” for boys, or “na babae” for girls) :

        • son/daughter - anak
        • brother/sister - kapatid
        • grandson/granddaughter - apo

        In English, I ask how many brothers and sisters someone has, but in Tagalog I just ask how many siblings they are. Ilan (how many) kayong (are you) magkakapatid (siblings as a group)? They can give a simple answer, or specify boys and girls, it’s great! Asking about boys/girls takes too long, so nobody bothers.

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        Esperanto still has those weird -in- and -iĉ- suffixes. They aren’t a grammatical gender system, but… come on.

        • anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          I kind of like them but I just wish the “base” was neuter e.g. avo would be grandparent, then avino could stay grandmother and something else could be grandfather. Overall I think the modularity is neat

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            i.e. optional suffixes to highlight social gender, but the default was neuter? I’d like it better than the current system, but I think that the suffixes aren’t even necessary - if you need to specify the gender, you can simply plop some additional word and call it a day.

            That’s a piece of criticism in retrospect though. Social awareness of gender issues was way lower in Zamenhof’s times than now, not really blaming him.

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      Man picking a fight with half the world. Also what do you mean gendered languages? All languages are obviously female.

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    Seven - there’s a locative nobody remembers, because it’s only used for small islands, cities, and for “rus” (locative ruri - in the countryside). Or four if you’re one of those sick fucks who study Late Latin (NOM/ACC/GEN/ABL).

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    Aren’t there technically five cases, just they’re only expressed through pronouns (like the accusative in English)?

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    All except for the accusative because why would you keep the nominative when you can also keep the accusative