Does anyone else go looking on amazon because they used to have loads of stuff, but now there’s just a few things over and over and over and they’re not quite what you wanted. It’s so full of promoted content and you keep thinking that somewhere on one of the pages there might be something new, but no, it’s these same products again and again.
Unless you bought something, then you get the exact item in your ads too. Because hey, we know you liked that book! Why don’t you want another copy of it, uh?
Of course I would want to buy it every week. Who wouldn’t buy the book every week if they liked it so much they bought it once. Buy! Buy! Buy!
Also you have automatically been signed up and charged for Prime.
- So hard to avoid signing up for Prime.
- Even harder to cancel your free trial of Prime if you ever caved and took the free trial.
- I don’t know why they don’t do Prime for free all year. I always buy more when I’m on free trial Prime. It would be an easy way to get more of my cash. But I guess enshittifying executives are going to demand more customer charges, and maybe they get more money from paid Prime subscribers than they get from increased purchasing anyway.
It’s not just a matter of avoiding it, I have been signed up for prime on days I didn’t eve use Amazon. The system will sign you up on its own.
Amazon is just speedy AliExpress. Sellers use all kinds of key words so they pop up in the search, and they’ll use different words for the same drop-shipped item that a dozen other sellers have. The sizes are all different because they’re from varying shops and countries, quality is always questionable, and some are just scams (shout out to that 2tb hardrive I got a few years back that was just coded to read that when plugged in). You can’t trust the reviews, as they’re likely bought, bots, or both.
Looking for a product is low key exhausting, especially if it’s important. You have to check videos, reviews, reddit, lemmy, Twitter, so you can get a variety of responses since the first 5 are alway "wow, my life has been changed by the DooDoo dome 1500.“
kNN was a precursor to AI and is just as much slop.
Amazon search was never good, but it was not a problem before it got flooded with cheap Chinese crap.
The cheap Chinese crap makes Amazon worse, which results in loss of customers, which frightens the Shareholders (line has to go up), to increase the profit the management milks their cash cow (AKA cheap Chinese crap sellers) so more Chinese crap is in the site. The circle of life.
Yesterday was some houseware. There wasn’t anything Chinese in the listing, but it was the same sponsored wrong products again and again and again and again and again and again. I get more Chinese stuff when I look for electrical items, but sometimes the Chinese stuff works out for me.
If you make the same search for houseware on AliExpress I bet you’ll find most of what you saw on Amazon
Amazon is deliberately built to be terrible for the users, so they can push products that make them the most money. Most filters are useless, and some don’t work properly, you only have limited sorting options that also don’t work properly (if you sort ascending by price, it will still put sponsored results that don’t respect the sorting order). A while ago, I was looking for a product that I knew should cost about €5, and I couldn’t find any cheaper than €10 until I got to the 10th result page.
For an example of a good search interface, just check farnell.com. It’s insanely good, you can basically filter by any attribute of a product. Being able to use something like this to search for a laptop, or a mobile phone would be amazing.
I clicked through to their browse all products page, and it was a thing of organised beauty.
Get the same feelings with Netflix. Like it feels like I’m some experiment for them instead of a customer looking to watch movies.
Actually you may well be part of their “beta experience” which typically sucks ass.
Turn it off in your settings.
Like it kept trying to recommend Carry On after I gave it a thumbs down. That movie was fucking garbage I couldn’t get through the first like 20 minutes
Amazon Canada is just a bunch of no name brand Chinese shit.
the hilarious part is that there is genuinely good Chinese products in 2024 but it’s almost like Amazon wants to flood their store with over priced junk instead
Just go to AliExpress, same shit, half the price. Bonus points that while their initial results may not be exactly what you want their recommendation engine usually gets you there quickly enough.
Maybe it’s just my experience, but I have yet to find something on AliExpress for cheaper than somewhere else.
There might be a bit of a knack to it. Anything brand name or bulk generally there aren’t a lot of savings. With the right search terms you can usually uncover third shift items, whether that’s you’re thing or not. Anything you see on Amazon sold by companies with names like HSUUEHE are often 20-40% cheaper. You might need to dig a little, there may be 20-30 listings of the same product from different sellers, some just list things at the same price you’d see them on Amazon. Anything that looks mass produced on Etsy can usually be found as well.
When I look for electronic stuff, that’s exactly what happens. It turns out some of it is good, some of it is awful, but there’s absolutely no way to tell.
God forbid you want to use search exclusion.
Oh, you searched for “some item -plastic”, guess that means you want all these bestselling plastic ones.
I have literally used their own filter system to find something with very specific specs and it still shows me totally unrelated bullshit because just like SEO, people will just put an entire fucking dictionary in the description or tags so it always shows up no matter what you’re searching for.
And sometimes the filters are completely irrelevant. You’re searching for correction fluid and the filters say 1Gb, 2Gb, 4Gb-512Gb, 520Mb.
Amazon: the world’s largest enshittification platform!
Amazon was never active in my neck of the woods, we had a local competitor. This was a bit shitty for a while, as it didn’t have the same reach Amazon had.
When Amazon finally rented the market it was ok for a while and then enshittification came in.
So we still use the competitor.
Northern Europeans doing it well as usual.
Well the competitor is owned by the largest supermarket chain and they try to follow amazons buns model, so it’s kinda shitty and capitalistic all the same.
But because it’s smaller in scale and doesn’t impact the silly chain that much it’s still mildly better (think Amazon right years ago.
But for the time being it’s slightly better. I think it’s great that Amazon has a competitor that didn’t lose out.
Yeah. Monopoly corporations are awful.
I’ve never used Amazon in my entire life (well, I’ve probably visited websites hosted on AWS, but that’s it).
I see no reason to change that. Besides we have a pretty neat alternative in the Benelux in the form of bol.com. Loads cheaper & more local.
Yeah, amazon used to be cheaper than other places. Now if they are, it’s only by pennies. The enshitification process continues. Hope your Benelux place thrives on good service.
In the wake of worker strikes and Amazon’s continued enshittification, I have pledged to stop buying anything from them.
That’s a good idea. I should do the same. They’re really annoying anyway.
Amazon: You want to search for laptops with Graphics cards? Want to filter by RTX 3000s, 2000s, or 1600s?
Me: What about RTX 4000s?
Amazon: “What is a RTX 4000?”
Check out this screenshot from Home Depot’s website.
About 1/8 of the page is the product. Almost NONE of the page is the “specifications” section, which is the most important section.
The majority of the page is “frequently bought together”, “More from this brand”, and “Customers also viewed”.
I have NEVER bought anything from any of these useless lists. But they have slowed down the page sufficiently that I stopped using their website and went elsewhere. Try browsing with just 10 product pages open on this site – you will start having tabs unload or crash due to memory consumption. Some of these product lists have a dozen items in them if you scroll right, so it consumes gigabytes of RAM.
McMaster carr
Honestly that site is genius.
They provide as much information as possible for all their hardware. Specs, drawings, CAD models, similar products, item codes, CAGE codes, everything! All without requiring an account or membership. Why do that when someone could just take that info and use it to find a cheaper source? Especially when they’re more expensive than other sources by 25% or more? Well because engineers will often grab their models and use them in their designs, and when it comes time to order things, knowing the parts ordered will have the exact dimensions and specifications as the ones in your model is often worth the premium. Plus they have so many products that if it’s not on their website, there’s a good chance it doesn’t exist anywhere.
Most other hardware sellers use the worst model imaginable for their sites. The kind where it’s like “Oh, you’d like some tubing? Well give us an email, make an account, and send a message to our sales team to put together a quote for you. And we won’t share the full specs until you do, so there’s no guarantee that we even have what you want.”
McMaster really embraced the philosophy that if you make things as easy as possible for your customers, they’ll choose you even if you’re more expensive.
NONE of the page is the “specifications” section
You may want to double check that. Actually, most of this page could have been left off if that’s all you were looking for.
The “specifications” section is a collapsed section about a quarter of the way down. It starts out collapsed on every page, even if you open it up every time.
Maybe I’m just used to looking up spec sheets but this is pretty standard.
About 1/8 of the page is the product. Almost NONE of the page is the “specifications” section, which is the most important section.
Not a very useful metric once you add in infinite scroll. More important is the fact is the “frequently bought together” section between the product and its details, all of which are collapsed by default (unless you did that)
I didn’t collapse or uncollapse anything on the page before taking the screenshot. On loading, all the spam sections are uncollapsed, and the “specifications” section is collapsed.
I’ve custom tailored my Amazon experience using my adblocker to delete pretty much any element that doesn’t serve me.
This includes any and all ads, “recommended” items, “customers also bought…” listings, banners for their business account, and anything that isn’t specifically relevant to the item I’m looking at.
I can’t image using it vanilla. They’d lose my business.
Yeah I’ve been doing that for years on every site I use frequently (so far that I even got my own YouTube filter list on github). It doesn’t help with broken searches ignoring operators, but it makes the web a much better place nonetheless!
Oh wow, that sounds fantastic. What adblocker is that, and how do you configure it?
I’m using Adguard, but most will have element blocking as a feature.
Basically, I select “block ads on this website”, and I click on the element. A small box comes up where I can fine tune the selected element (I usually do this to get cleaner results), then I preview and confirm the setting.
I’m able to then take that filter, and use it pretty much anywhere else that I use adguard (Android phone, another computer, etc.). It’s awesome.
But like I said, most adblockers will have this feature, including the popular ublock origin. It might just be under a different name.
You can do this for any website :)
Is this all on a desktop/laptop computer? I’m on my phone 95% of the time but I see a lot of conversations on Lemmy about how to block ads or work around YouTube’s restrictions (or whatever) and they make it seem like people are on a desktop full time. I guess it’s just a little surprising to me if that’s the case.
As long as you can run the adguard browser extension in a mobile browser, then you can add new elements to block.
But if that’s not an option, you can create those rules on a desktop browser, then add them to Adguard on mobile (the app, not the browser extension).
As long as you have the rules in a filter list, it’ll work anywhere. These amazon specific sanitation rules may already be available on public adblocking lists, and in that case, they could work regardless of the adblocking app being used.
Thank you very much indeed, knowledgeable internet stranger.
