Because it’s essentially saying that her decision to get tattoos is the equivalent of her vandalizing her body. It’s a meme criticizing a woman for choosing what she wants to do with her body, which is just a tamer version of “your body my choice”.
I saw that more like a criticism of the tattooing style, not her life decisions. Your body my choice is downright authoritarian. I don’t see how it relates to this.
And the meme completely breaks down if the building is considered art so let’s not play dumb. We both know in this meme the building isn’t representing art.
The meme suggests that this beautiful woman made herself less attractive by getting tattoos. People who tend to agree with that statement are not necessarily nazis fascists sexists Trump voters rapists church goers and so on, despite the fact that many of that ilk share similar sentiments (but for completely different reasons). Believe it or not, not everyone likes this aesthetic and this is not political.
If you think “I don’t like tattoos on women” is the same as “women with tattoos look like vandalized buildings” then you’re missing the nuances necessary to have this discussion.
First of all I didn’t say any of these things. You assumed both. Personally I don’t like tagging, which is not the same as graffiti. Graffiti art can be great. There’s street art out there that’s breathtaking.
Same for tattoos. For starters I never distinguished between men and women. You did that. I have nothing against tattoos as a general concept. I’m not a fan of this particular style of cliché designs scattered about.
Here’s my perspective on tattoos if you’re interested:
In western cultures tattoos started out as distinguishers of society’s outcasts, prisoners etc. Their popularisation in the last few decades began from successful individuals who somehow “made it” in life. Rock stars, football players etc, usually people from lower or middle class families who made a lot of money. For them unconsciously tattoos in visible places signify that they are successful in an unorthodox way, it shows to everyone that they can be different, they can stand out because they have money and they don’t need an employer/ master, they don’t need to look presentable, wear a suit (uniform) to work etc. In essence they’re free from the shackles of labour. Tattoos became a sign of individuality and success in that way.
Nowadays that everyone and their mother has tattoos and nobody cares anymore, in order to serve their purpose they need to be more and more outlandish and provocative, hence the face tattoo fad etc. I predict that in a few years from now kids will reject the concept and it might even be cool not to have them.
I’m sure my opinion is as worthless to her as hers is to me. And btw nobody is comparing the woman to the object, the point is that the aesthetic is similar. Applies to all sexes and objects.
Imho the building tags are not art, or at least not good art. And her snakes, bugs and Japanese masks are so tired and trite, everyone does the same stuff. Yay.
Tired and trite? That sounds like most of mainstream movies, music, television… Yet people enjoy it. It is their choice to like what they like, and do what they do.
Sure someone else may want the ceiling of the Sistine chapel tattood on them, but she chose this.
I’m happy for her, she can do whatever she wants. She’s still hot af. And people can watch whatever shit they want and they can have all the dumb opinions they want. That doesn’t change how I see it, and I like to think that my criticism is constructive.
I think what many would argue is, what is and is not constructive about criticizing someone’s choices. I think it is constructive to tell someone that wearing a reflective device or bright clothing when in low visibility situations such as hunting (if others are in the area shooting like Dick Cheney) or walking near traffic is constructive. But I don’t see any ups to telling someone their clothing design doesn’t agree with my tastes.
Whether I care for her tattoos or not, they aren’t harming others outside of people being prudish and feeling like they don’t have enough control over others choices.
Well to be fair nobody here told her anything, she probably doesn’t know that some idiots are talking about her in some obscure corner of the internet. Way I see it we all should be able to criticise anything. Tattoos are a form of art and people are allowed to have opinions on it. Same goes for the “art” of tagging.
Yeah sure, and my tastes are also misaligned with the mentally insane people who smear themselves with their own feces. They’re just expressing themselves obviously.
Nice comparison. Clearly smearing feces on yourself requires the same level of forethought and financial burden that getting multiple tattoos does.
I’m not even commenting on her taste, or yours. Just the juvenile declaration that she somehow does not care, when she’s investing as much time and money into her looks as she has.
As far as tastes go, yours are as valid as hers are, I’d just choose a less inflammatory way to say you disagree with someone’s taste.
You’re right, it’s not a fair comparison. At least you can wash the shit off the mentally unstable person with hot water and soap.
Just because she’s financially able to make her shit smearing permanent through inking it doesn’t make it any better. Doing heroin is also a financial burden but we don’t glamorize that shit.
If she cared that much about her appearance she wouldn’t make herself look like the average shitty neighborhood dumpster.
At some point we’ll have to stop sugar coating every single shitty lifestyle choice people make.
Now don’t get me wrong, she can do whatever she wants. Her body, her choice to look like an abandoned building.
My body, my choice to make fun of people with too much money and not enough common sense.
She would look way better without the tats. Even this shitty building would look better without this artless crap. And how is this a political take?
That’s just like, your opinion, man.
this Camaro is ruined! It’s covered in sharpie art!
…it’s still a Camaro
Donny, please
Because it’s essentially saying that her decision to get tattoos is the equivalent of her vandalizing her body. It’s a meme criticizing a woman for choosing what she wants to do with her body, which is just a tamer version of “your body my choice”.
I saw that more like a criticism of the tattooing style, not her life decisions. Your body my choice is downright authoritarian. I don’t see how it relates to this.
Even if it is a criticism of the tattooing style it’s still likening it to vandalism. It doesn’t change the message behind the meme.
See what you and I call vandalism on that building some call art.
And the meme completely breaks down if the building is considered art so let’s not play dumb. We both know in this meme the building isn’t representing art.
The meme suggests that this beautiful woman made herself less attractive by getting tattoos. People who tend to agree with that statement are not necessarily nazis fascists sexists Trump voters rapists church goers and so on, despite the fact that many of that ilk share similar sentiments (but for completely different reasons). Believe it or not, not everyone likes this aesthetic and this is not political.
If you think “I don’t like tattoos on women” is the same as “women with tattoos look like vandalized buildings” then you’re missing the nuances necessary to have this discussion.
First of all I didn’t say any of these things. You assumed both. Personally I don’t like tagging, which is not the same as graffiti. Graffiti art can be great. There’s street art out there that’s breathtaking. Same for tattoos. For starters I never distinguished between men and women. You did that. I have nothing against tattoos as a general concept. I’m not a fan of this particular style of cliché designs scattered about.
Here’s my perspective on tattoos if you’re interested: In western cultures tattoos started out as distinguishers of society’s outcasts, prisoners etc. Their popularisation in the last few decades began from successful individuals who somehow “made it” in life. Rock stars, football players etc, usually people from lower or middle class families who made a lot of money. For them unconsciously tattoos in visible places signify that they are successful in an unorthodox way, it shows to everyone that they can be different, they can stand out because they have money and they don’t need an employer/ master, they don’t need to look presentable, wear a suit (uniform) to work etc. In essence they’re free from the shackles of labour. Tattoos became a sign of individuality and success in that way. Nowadays that everyone and their mother has tattoos and nobody cares anymore, in order to serve their purpose they need to be more and more outlandish and provocative, hence the face tattoo fad etc. I predict that in a few years from now kids will reject the concept and it might even be cool not to have them.
Comparing women to objects tends to be more frowned upon by civilized people, which excludes the right.
You’re welcome to find whatever you like attractive. She clearly doesn’t care about your opinion.
I’m sure my opinion is as worthless to her as hers is to me. And btw nobody is comparing the woman to the object, the point is that the aesthetic is similar. Applies to all sexes and objects. Imho the building tags are not art, or at least not good art. And her snakes, bugs and Japanese masks are so tired and trite, everyone does the same stuff. Yay.
Tired and trite? That sounds like most of mainstream movies, music, television… Yet people enjoy it. It is their choice to like what they like, and do what they do.
Sure someone else may want the ceiling of the Sistine chapel tattood on them, but she chose this.
I’m happy for her, she can do whatever she wants. She’s still hot af. And people can watch whatever shit they want and they can have all the dumb opinions they want. That doesn’t change how I see it, and I like to think that my criticism is constructive.
I’m glad you say she can do whatever she wants.
I think what many would argue is, what is and is not constructive about criticizing someone’s choices. I think it is constructive to tell someone that wearing a reflective device or bright clothing when in low visibility situations such as hunting (if others are in the area shooting like Dick Cheney) or walking near traffic is constructive. But I don’t see any ups to telling someone their clothing design doesn’t agree with my tastes.
Whether I care for her tattoos or not, they aren’t harming others outside of people being prudish and feeling like they don’t have enough control over others choices.
Well to be fair nobody here told her anything, she probably doesn’t know that some idiots are talking about her in some obscure corner of the internet. Way I see it we all should be able to criticise anything. Tattoos are a form of art and people are allowed to have opinions on it. Same goes for the “art” of tagging.
She doesnt care how she looks for you.
She clearly doesn’t care how she looks, yes
Someone who puts that much effort into their outward expression of themselves clearly cares about how they look. You just have misaligned tastes.
Yeah sure, and my tastes are also misaligned with the mentally insane people who smear themselves with their own feces. They’re just expressing themselves obviously.
Nice comparison. Clearly smearing feces on yourself requires the same level of forethought and financial burden that getting multiple tattoos does.
I’m not even commenting on her taste, or yours. Just the juvenile declaration that she somehow does not care, when she’s investing as much time and money into her looks as she has.
As far as tastes go, yours are as valid as hers are, I’d just choose a less inflammatory way to say you disagree with someone’s taste.
You’re right, it’s not a fair comparison. At least you can wash the shit off the mentally unstable person with hot water and soap.
Just because she’s financially able to make her shit smearing permanent through inking it doesn’t make it any better. Doing heroin is also a financial burden but we don’t glamorize that shit.
If she cared that much about her appearance she wouldn’t make herself look like the average shitty neighborhood dumpster.
At some point we’ll have to stop sugar coating every single shitty lifestyle choice people make.
Now don’t get me wrong, she can do whatever she wants. Her body, her choice to look like an abandoned building.
My body, my choice to make fun of people with too much money and not enough common sense.
Your username would be better if it were a fruit
While true…
It ain’t stopping nothing.
Your face would be better if it was in the sand