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Summary
Russia launched a major attack on Ukraine’s energy infrastructure on Christmas Day, using 184 missiles and drones, resulting in power cuts across the country.
Ukrainian President Zelensky condemned the attack, calling it “inhumane” and a “conscious choice” by Russia.
Despite the damage and casualties, Ukrainians remain resilient, celebrating Christmas amidst the crisis.
Zelenskyy’s Jewish, right?
“Jew” and “Israeli” are not synonyms.
I didn’t say they were. I merely asked the question… which I knew the answer to already.
Sure, not all Jews hate and kill Palestinians, but Palestinians are hated and killed by Jews.
Palestinians are hated and killed by non-Jews too, because it’s not only Jews in the IDF and not only Jews are Israeli citizens.
So you are still making ‘Jew’ and ‘Israeli’ synonyms.
And some of us have been working very hard to make this war stop. People like you are not helping, bringing up Zelensky being Jewish as if that is relevant here. All you are doing is promoting the disgusting “dual loyalties” bigotry. I’ve faced it myself many times. Including on Lemmy. There are people here who are absolutely convinced I support Israel no matter what I say.
And I am sure there are people who are absolutely convinced I’m antisemitic (a term that gets thrown around way too often and has no relation to the actual true meaning of the term “Semite”). Personally, I don’t care for anyone’s primitive monotheistic religious beliefs, Jewish or otherwise.
Zelenskyy, in my opinion, is an American imperialist tool just like Netanyahu. Could you imagine America’s response if the ball was on the other foot and unfriendly powers were encroaching on their borders? There’s a reason that Ukraine isn’t in NATO already. It’s a fragile democracy at best and corrupt to the core at worst.
As for the IDF, I’d be interested to find out the percentage of Jews to non-Jews that serve, but given that 65% of the Jewish Israeli population oppose the criminal prosecution of soldiers suspected of gang-raping Palestinian prisoners held in torture facilities, I’m guessing the percentage is high.
Suggesting that Zelensky has dual loyalties because he’s Jewish is a bigoted thing to say.
And yet not 100% as you implied earlier. Which, again, was bigoted.
Whether or not you think you’re not antisemitic, what you said was bigoted.
If opposing the murder, rape, torture and genocide of an indigenous group of people makes me a bigot in your eyes then I guess it’s guilty as charged. But once again you are reacting without understanding.
That is not what I said.
I don’t know why you are lying about me, but this is tantamount to trolling.
This is what I said:
Are you going to respond to what I said or are you trolling?
I believe he made a statement about converting to Orthodox Christianity. I personally think this was a political move.
To be honest, I don’t think he believes in the religious polemics of Judaism or Ukrainian Orthodox Christianity.
I am talking about the detailed religious polemics. Theological axioms. I am an atheist, but I support the Orthodox Church of Ukraine, smaller (pro-Ukrainian) Christian denominations and Crimean Tartar muslim organizations. I would even go as far as saying the government should support them with tax money.
I think they said that to try to suggest that Zelensky has dual loyalties. Not something Jews are un-used to hearing.
The fun thing in my case is that I’m a U.S. citizen and, because my dad was British and I fit certain requirements, I just got my British citizenship. So I guess I have triple loyalties?
Yeah, the multiple loyalties thing is complete BS.
If that was the case Zelensky would have evacuated to Lviv as per American recommendations. He is clearly not a person to give up.
And I didn’t even vote for him in 2019 (wasn’t a big fan of his opponent, but there were other issues at play).