• ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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    4 days ago

    They made a free game and offered hats. I don’t see anything predatory or wrong with charging for skins that don’t make a game “pay to win” in a game that is free. Really, I call it the least terrible monetization form.

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      3 days ago

      Exactly. The main problems are two-fold:

      • chance-based item acquisition - if I can buy the thing I want, that’s fine, but if it’s all chance based, it promotes gambling
      • market to resell items - now there’s a cash incentive to gamble

      I don’t have a problem with paid cosmetics, I have a problem with promoting gambling.

      That said, I think Valve has done more good than bad, so I like them. I don’t like everything they do though.

    • wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org
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      3 days ago

      Tbh it’s more the getting users to gamble by paying for cases that got the ball rolling. Objectively, the least terrible monetization form is buying a game outright and then earning your items through playing as they used to do before free to play became normalized. That’s why all these shitty games come out with battle passes even though game developers did just fine supporting their game for a few years without the constant money churn. Because it’s the norm, people now think it’s impossible to have a game with updates that is bought outright, yet deep rock galactic does it just fine without $60/yr worth in battle passes.

      • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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        3 days ago

        But an online only game like team fortress? It doesn’t jive well. You can’t keep the servers going and the security and the anti cheat updated on a game that you pay once for unless you want the support and the game to be worthless two or three years after it was first released.

        Your idea is great for single player games and noncompetitive team games like borderlands online play, and i own tons of games like that and its 90% of what i play. Not for games like team fortress, LoL, and Fortnite. For the latter games, it would mean support and servers would shut down while lots of people would still want to play them.

        I played LoL quite a bunch over decade ago. Thousand+ hours over three years, probably. I spent a total of about $40. Had Hundreds of hours in on team fortress and never spent a dime.