I mean, yeah, I get the sentiment. But continuing to fight amongst ourselves and excluding potential intraclass members from the fight before we fight the ruling class is truly a self defeating tactic.
Look at the trump movement. There are so many potential comrades. His entire lie that got people on bird was “fighting the elite.” Too many people fell for that that could truly be on our side if we tried.
I dunno. I harbor those same feelings, so I’m not trying to high road you, but we were talking about class solidarity, I just feel like we need to extend that to the rest of the people in our class that we’ve been artificially pitted against and manipulated into fighting.
All of that “climate friendly lifestyle” marketing at bob is done by oil and gas companies. Are you tired of hearing about your “carbon footprint”? Good, cause its bullshit propaganda made up by big oil and gas.
There was a huge campaign to shift the blame to consumers so that people would be too busy scrutinizing themselves to scrutinize the oil and gas industry. The sad part is that it fucking worked because people are dumb.
Neither you not OP understand the problem. In the end, you damn white knights are not taken seriously cuz your arguments are trump-level idiotic. And so US politics looks like just idiots shouting at each other.
Let’s take your claim of a bob being responsible for 0.00000015% of emissions at face value. US population is approximately 300,000,000. That means bobs combined are responsible for 45% of the emissions. And shell only for 5%. To me it seems like forget the shell, if we manage to get bob to emit 2/3 of what they regularly do, it’s equivalent to erasing 3 shells from the planet.
So, it looks to me, from your own assumptions you should stop focusing on corporations and go hunt the laymen. You see someone use a gas heater? Set their house on fire. You see a pick-up truck! Puncture the tires. Start this activism across the country, and you’ll do more for the environment than if you combine into a mob and manage to overthrow the evil greedy corpo.
You seem to not realise that “shell” is a stand-in for a lot of companies, each of which emits 5%. It is way more efficient to get a few companies than every person on earth.
Extend this to climate change:
Bob is responsible for .00000015% of emissions.
Shell is responsible for 5%.
But 95% of marketing for a more climate-friendly lifestyles is aimed at Bob.
Or to put it another way, Bob will emit roughly 15 metric tons of CO2 in his lifetime.
Shell emitted roughly 50 million tons in 2023 alone.
But let’s tel Bob he needs to change his lifestyle.
While all true, if Bob drives a gigantic pickup, Bob can fuck right off too
I mean, yeah, I get the sentiment. But continuing to fight amongst ourselves and excluding potential intraclass members from the fight before we fight the ruling class is truly a self defeating tactic.
Look at the trump movement. There are so many potential comrades. His entire lie that got people on bird was “fighting the elite.” Too many people fell for that that could truly be on our side if we tried.
I dunno. I harbor those same feelings, so I’m not trying to high road you, but we were talking about class solidarity, I just feel like we need to extend that to the rest of the people in our class that we’ve been artificially pitted against and manipulated into fighting.
Focus your energy on the bigger threat
Reminds me of that old children’s book
Bob Rolls Coal, Coal Rolls Bob
It’s those plastic straws! Surely we’ll save the planet, once Bob stops using those.
All of that “climate friendly lifestyle” marketing at bob is done by oil and gas companies. Are you tired of hearing about your “carbon footprint”? Good, cause its bullshit propaganda made up by big oil and gas.
There was a huge campaign to shift the blame to consumers so that people would be too busy scrutinizing themselves to scrutinize the oil and gas industry. The sad part is that it fucking worked because people are dumb.
Neither you not OP understand the problem. In the end, you damn white knights are not taken seriously cuz your arguments are trump-level idiotic. And so US politics looks like just idiots shouting at each other.
Let’s take your claim of a bob being responsible for 0.00000015% of emissions at face value. US population is approximately 300,000,000. That means bobs combined are responsible for 45% of the emissions. And shell only for 5%. To me it seems like forget the shell, if we manage to get bob to emit 2/3 of what they regularly do, it’s equivalent to erasing 3 shells from the planet.
So, it looks to me, from your own assumptions you should stop focusing on corporations and go hunt the laymen. You see someone use a gas heater? Set their house on fire. You see a pick-up truck! Puncture the tires. Start this activism across the country, and you’ll do more for the environment than if you combine into a mob and manage to overthrow the evil greedy corpo.
Checkmate, anon.
You sure?
You do realize he just pulled those numbers out of his ass, right? Doing math with them is pointless.
You seem to not realise that “shell” is a stand-in for a lot of companies, each of which emits 5%. It is way more efficient to get a few companies than every person on earth.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/since-2016-80-percent-of-global-co2-emissions-come-from-just-57-companies-report-shows-180984118/
You’re just white knighting for the worst polluters in the world. I hope you didn’t break your neck falling off that high horse