• anachronist@midwest.social
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    4 days ago

    Lockheed’s stock price fell because they missed on earnings. It’s batshit to think a new fighter coming out of China would be bad for Lockheed. 🤡

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      4 days ago

      A 6th gen fighter coming out of China while the US can’t make their 5th gen fighter work properly certainly does look bad for Lockheed.

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        F22 is working just fine. The new planes from China seem like tech demonstrators, so a similar stage to X35 in 2000. So they could still have plenty of production problems ahead of them.

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            3 days ago

            Could you point to what issues your talking about? It’s hard to converse when you’re referring to vague vibes.

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              He just straight up doesn’t know what he’s talking about. The only thing you’ll ever get out of him is west bad, China, Russia & North Korea good.

              Can just as well name his post lockheed stock drops after kindergarten teacher drinks water and it would be equally accurate.

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              3 days ago

              The only one referring to vague vibes here is you bud. The disaster that is F22 is very well documented

              On the other hand, China has consistently shown the ability to produce things that actually work.

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                Jfs has been a cluster, they wanted a VTOL jet that do everything, which physics doesn’t like. But with 15 years extra development, they kinda did it.

                80% readiness is higher than most jets, my sources are actually showing loser, but still in line with other military jets.

                A-10 Thunderbolt II (67 percent) and the F-16C (69 percent), while significantly outperforming air superiority fighters like the F-15C (33 percent) and F-22 (52 percent). https://www.sandboxx.us/news/why-media-coverage-of-the-f-35-repeatedly-misses-the-mark/

                And is your third source just saying that the biggest problem with the F22 is that they want more of them? That hardly seems like a criticism of the plane itself.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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                  Jfs has been a cluster, they wanted a VTOL jet that do everything, which physics doesn’t like. But with 15 years extra development, they kinda did it.

                  In the same way the Cybertruck is kind of a truck.

                  80% readiness is higher than most jets, my sources are actually showing loser, but still in line with other military jets.

                  80% is not the readiness of F22, but a target they can’t hit.

                  And is your third source just saying that the biggest problem with the F22 is that they want more of them? That hardly seems like a criticism of the plane itself.

                  It’s a criticism of the abysmal production capability showing that these things are artisanally made.

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                    3 days ago

                    Did you see the comparison to other jets?

                    Su57 is artisanally made, less than two dozen. ~200 is a short production run, they shut it down early because those 200 could defeat every other air force on the planet several times over. But tech has progressed since then, it’s only a bit better than the J20. But like the U2, that’s not it’s fault.

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        4 days ago

        Cope how? I’m not a fan. The worst thing in the world for Lockheed would be if US’s adversaries decided they weren’t going to be designing any new weapons systems. Lockheed runs on fear of what’s next.