next time he says that just slap him hard. And ask him who’s the alpha now?
Toxic people that would never have had a platform for their bullshit have suddenly gained that ability in just 20 years time because of the internet. People that would normally receive a lot of fists in their face, do not anymore. The digital world is such a new thing that it’s completely unnatural for us to live with and it affects our perspectives and social lives. It simply goes way too fast for evolution to catch up to.
Without good care, it creates people that are completely delusional and deranged. Filter bubbles also add up to the problem. One that consumes content will be served more similar content, creating and feeding a very limited perspective. Because everything in the digital world is so new, there have been almost no studies in how it affects us and how it should be remedied.
Just beat his ass lol
Andrew Tate and his cum dungeon brother are a big reason for this.
Ask him if being an alpha male is a furry thing
In this case, this should be the only acceptable explanation.
Also if he likes werewolf romance novels
How old is your brother?
Your brother is on a (specifically designed and heavily funded) pipeline to being a total piece of shit (not just with misogyny, but racism, and probably queerphobia and ableism too), do what you can to get him off it. A quick search brings up what looks to be some good info to start you off:
Misogynistic influencers are trending right now. Defusing their message is a complex task
De-radicalising incels out of the ‘manosphere’ through Reddit
There are also many youtube videos on the subject, though I haven’t watched any recently, so I won’t link, but look up something along the lines of “manosphere right wing pipeline” and you should see some results.
The Alt-Right Playbook videos are an also must watch, starting here:
neutron male 😎
Alpha males are like alpha versions of software
Beat his ass to establish dominance.
True solution, beat him into submission so that now he’s the beta male and all of a sudden he’s denying the concept
Seduce his mom!
It’s called the manosphere, and it’s a bunch of bad podcasters and YouTubers giving shitty advice on how to be a man to insecure kids. It’s annoying because it’s so stupid on its face and yet it’s working.
Can you blame them, though? I can’t think of a single person speaking for young men who is also widely accepted by the liberal left - or however you want to define the “good guys.” Even here on Lemmy, anyone slightly deviating from the narrative is met with extreme hostility. It’s not that young men are naturally drawn to figures like Andrew Tate - they’re being pushed there.
I just can’t take anyone seriously who refers to liberalism as “the liberal left.” Liberals absolutely have not treated young men well, but for fuck sakes man read a fucking book or something just once in your life.
Can you blame them, though? I can’t think of a single person speaking for young men who is also widely accepted by the liberal left - or however you want to define the “good guys.”
There are plenty of social media personalities with massive followings that specifically aim some or all of their contents at men with a positive vision of what men can be. I watch FD Signifier personally. There are also plenty of articles showcase positive male social media personalities with millions of followers. You should have done a 5 second Google search before saying something so easily debunked. You can’t think of them because you are not looking.
Even here on Lemmy, anyone slightly deviating from the narrative is met with extreme hostility.
Welcome to social media, first day? You’ll get that same extreme hostility in Andrew Tates comments if you deviate from being misogynistic.
It’s not that young men are naturally drawn to figures like Andrew Tate - they’re being pushed there.
You’re right, just not in the way you’re claiming. They are being pushed by social media algorithms that reward toxicity and simple answers. That’s not the fault of the lefts “groupthink” it’s on those companies.
What narrative would that be? That all people, regardless of gender, ethnicity etc. deserve equal rights?
What narrative would that be?
‘you should’
“You disagree with our narrative? You must be a sexist racist then.”
Thanks for illustrating my point.
By refusing to answer my question you’ve given your answer.
If you disagree that all people should be equal then I won’t treat you as an equal.
This doesn’t require a ted talk. It’s just fairness.
And why do you think I disagree with that?
How about the hundreds speaking to ‘people’ in general instead of young men? Making your target audience 14yo boys is kind of fucked up on its own.
Making your target audience 14yo boys is kind of fucked up on its own.
Is it just me, or does that statement just not hold up to scrutiny? Are 14 year old boys supposed to just be complete pariahs from society? At what age does it start being unacceptable to address them, and at what age if any does it become okay to speak to males again? What do you expect a teenage boy’s life to be like?
I’m increasingly convinced that being anti-man is a defining trait of being on The Left in America. The Left has no monopoly on progressive social issues. If you poll Americans on issues alone, they’ll overwhelmingly come down in favor of progressive issues, things like higher minimum wages, medicare for all etc. The Left exists to play identity politics, largely against each other. Seeing men as the source of all their problems is the only uniting factor they share.
Depending on exactly who on The Left you ask, it is either a waste of time or outright immoral to talk to men and boys in good faith. The people posting about “Instead of gender reveal parties, you should have anti-heteronormativity lectures with rainbow cake” cannot stand the thought of saying to an adolescent boy “Here’s how our social policies will benefit you.” Because they cannot stand the thought of males benefiting from anything. That sentence sticks in their throat.
Most of my life I’ve heard “Girls need positive female role models in media.” Is this somehow not true for boys as well? “Even if it is, it’s not what we do here, and we’d rather it wasn’t done anywhere else either.”
Well it is being done somewhere else. There’s a whole media empire out there who are perfectly happy to fill that niche. Nobody on The Left will even try to compete in that market because the culture war is too important to them.
Im not saying boys shouldnt be addressed and they shouldnt have role models. Im saying that people shouldnt target them specofically because they are young insecure men. Why cant people just consume media that fits them individually indenpendent of their age and gender? Why do we feel the need to shape people into roles they arent meant for just because of their gender? This is a leading cause of depression in young adults and it sgetting worse
I don’t know anyone who specifically targets that audience. There are those who talk about men’s issues (among other topics) and those who don’t, and the ones who do tend to lean more to the right and are almost universally labeled as bad people by everyone else. Even someone like Chris Williamson has mentioned how he couldn’t order merch for himself from a company in San Francisco because the staff refused the order simply because of who he is. I imagine Scott Galloway is treated more or less the same.
I dont know the people you mentioned so I cant comment on them specifically, but as I see it theres a huge difference between ‘talking about mens issues’ and indoctrinating them into mysoginists by saying stuff like ‘bitches wont fuck you because you are weak and poor, you need to dominate them, thats what theyre attracted to’
“Alpha male” basically translates to toxic masculinity, and “beta male” basically translates to anyone who respects other people in any way. It’s the callsign of pieces of shit like Andrew Tate, who is a human trafficker and serial sexual abuser currently in prison awaiting trial in… I think it was Croatia?
He doesn’t know what it means to be cool, so he’s hoping that just declaring that he’s cool will be good enough to make him popular.
The problem is that the kids who try this strategy almost universally cannot pick up on social cues, otherwise they would understand that it will always lead to the opposite result. People who seriously say out loud that they’re alpha males are pretty much exclusively losers or scumbags.
I think it was Croatia?
Romania?
If you want advice on how to handle this: ask questions. Ask them calmly and without any judgment. Be genuinely curious.
“What makes him a ‘beta male?’”
“What characteristics do you admire most in ‘alpha males?’”
“What characteristics do you think you have?”
“Where’d you learn about all this?”
Don’t ask them in rapid fire, pepper a question in here and there over time.
Alternatively refer to him only as “Cuck” until he stops acting like a fuckwit.
No cuck shaming please.
What are they gonna do about it? Get someone to defend their kinks better than they can while they jerk off in the corner?
Dunno, but your fixation on defending the use of a kink as an insult soulds pretty assholeish. You do you.
Ok, in fairness the second comment was a dumb joke. But I fight stupid bigots with stupid bigotry. Its more entertaining for me than trying logic and reason because as we have seen time and time again from Trumpists it plain doesnt fucking work. Fuck them, if I have to be mad listening to their dribble, Im gonna make them madder.
Someone constantly spouting off about being an Alpha will hate a dismissive “shut up cuck” and being walked off on so much more than actually respecting their stance by arguing it with logic.
I also hate bigots, it’s just that engaging in hate against non-bigots to go against bigots is unnecessary when there’s tons of other ways to go against bigots.
I never said “don’t insult the bigot pro alpha asshole”. Please do, but please don’t kink shame <3
He wants girls to think he is cool but has received bad advice
Tell him calling himself an alpha is just what a beta would do. Real alphas don’t say shit about themselves, they have people who do that for them. Watch him implode.
“Any man who must say ‘I am king’ is no true king at all.”
That would probably just stop him from sharing. He would still keep consuming the harmful content
Im a Sugma male.
Not a Ligma male?
Ligma balls
He’s watching toxic YouTubers like Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate.
