Hello all, it is with a heavy heart that I must admit that I have become the drama that I always sought to avoid for this server. In this case, I could easily let sleeping dogs lie, but I’m somewhat exhausted and I don’t really see the point of continuing here if there isn’t some semblance of justice or rational thought to be found. More to the point, if Lemmy continues to display outright hostility and toxicity towards Americans at every turn, there is virtually no chance that this platform will ever develop beyond its current fringe status.

Although this server is based in Canada, I think we probably have a good number of Americans, and also despite recent events I think Canadians and Americans are fairly similar and have historically gotten along quite well with one another. I’m curious if a more diverse array of people will find any value in my actions, or if I’m truly just shouting into the wind. Strap in, because this is gonna be a long one.

This all started yesterday when @[email protected] made a post to AskLemmy. The original post read as follows.

I responded here. I had indeed noticed the constant derisive comments regarding Americans, although I didn’t agree with the assumption that such comments were made by Russian/Chinese agents, and stated as much.

In my view, the responses to both OP and myself in that thread constitute clear evidence that at least one of our assumptions was true. In response to being called out on their hateful behavior, a number of users proceeded to double down, attempting to gaslight myself and OP and even suggesting that we were actually the Russian spies 🕵️‍♂️

Several hours later, one of our users decided to make a post “exposing” my behavior on [email protected]. Despite the fact that I hadn’t utilized any moderator powers during this saga, he found my words to be offensive enough to post on said community. The post was eventually removed because it was unsuitable for the community, but not before I had replied in defense of myself. This was unfortunate, although understandable, because I felt that my response was something that Lemmy users could benefit from hearing.

I made this post because I want my fellow sh.itjust.works users to judge whether my actions and thoughts were reasonable, and I also want to expose this individual for what they are. My first option was [email protected], but it’s not allowed to post drama that you’re involved in. Also, I’m not really looking for the opinions of people who subscribe to drama communities on Lemmy, but rather the opinions of the average sh.itjust.works user. So here’s the screenshot of the removed post.

Here’s my reply.

It’ll probably be easier reading if you go to my profile and/or his profile. Although the post was deleted, the comments should still appear in our profiles.

To summarize, this user bullied a brand new user into deleting their account, responding to an innocent, highly upvoted meme with this comment

He let’s me freely hang out at his nice place full of amenities so I can’t badmouth him

Lmfao, no, you can, you just like the taste of boot, and the benefits he gives you (that he only has because he exploits people like you) too much to.

Also, those last two points in the meme, as well as this being your only post on a new account strongly suggest that this is a troll, or at the very least, a really sad LARP, rather than observations made by someone who has ever spent any time at all with any actual rich people.

Two days later, he decided to call me out for mod abuse, despite the fact that I hadn’t removed a single comment of his. Now he’s decided to move over to lemmy.dbzer0.com, thank goodness.

But overall, aside from the specifics of this drama, I also want y’all to render judgment on whether or not Lemmy tends to exhibit a toxic attitude towards Americans. Notice that I said Americans, not America. I don’t give a shit if people criticize and blatantly shit on America for the decisions that our government makes. But it’s far too often that Lemmy users go beyond that line and decide to hurl personal insults towards Americans, often in completely non-political communities. I’ve always had thick skin and an open mind, so if I’m getting annoyed by it, my assumption is that most other Americans will find it intolerable. And although we don’t need to be a majority American site by any means, the sheer numbers dictate that if Americans find this site intolerable, it will never achieve mainstream success.

And if I hear one more fucking person say that America only joined World War 2 after it was already over, or that we were cowards for not joining sooner, I swear to God I’ma start criticizing the metric system again 😂

EDIT:

Thanks for the replies, I’ll try to be less of an arrogant prick going forward and in return I’d like people to reflect on my words from time to time. My primary motivation is making Lemmy better and having more diverse viewpoints, I wouldn’t have called anyone out if I didn’t feel that some of you are creating an environment that is self-destructive towards our goals in that regard. But maybe I’m overreacting, I would just ask you to put yourself in other people’s shoes before making comments, and remember that we’re all on the same team here, even the North American Scum

  • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nz
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    15 hours ago

    America isn’t a true democracy. There’s gerrymandering, and electoral college, and first past the post. But it used to have one little bit of democracy left at the federal level. And then America voted for Trump.

    Kamala didn’t even get the popular vote. Because Americans didn’t think it was worth trying to win that like they did in 2016. The popular vote is the bragging rights to say the government doesn’t represent the people, and Americans didn’t want it.

    So, Americans chose to be thought of by the world as fascists. Not all of them, but most of them didn’t get up and choose otherwise. Few enough said no, that more were able to say yes. The default American image is a fascist. Nobody should be beholden to a default image, but that is the starting point. The mode average.

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      5 hours ago

      That’s actually reassuring to hear, coming from you.

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        10 hours ago

        Your source says Trump won the popular vote.

        Harris got 74.46m votes and Trump got 76.94m votes in the graph.

        And the US Election Atlas claims 77.1m for Trump and 74.7m Harris.

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        10 hours ago

        With 96% of the vote in, Trump has, according to the Associated Press, 49.97% to Vice President Harris’ 48.36%, or 76.9 million votes to 74.4 million.

        Drag can’t find your statement in this article. Did you send the right one?

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      11 hours ago

      And all the bigoted right wing European governments are what?

      All the unelected head of states in Europe are democratic?

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        5 hours ago

        You’re right, monarchs aren’t democratic. Which means, monarchs have no claim to represent the will of the people. The English have no choice in who King Charles is, so he doesn’t reflect on them. The Americans had a choice in Trump and they decided they wanted him over Kamala. So he’s reflective of who they are.

        • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.org
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          Monarchs are still popular enough to keep their symbolic role, otherwise they would have been disposed.

          The topic regularly comes up in the UK, Belgium, Spain, Denmark etc. The usual consensus in those countries is that the monarchy brings some stability between the governments. Also, when you look at the French and the lifetime salaries and benefits they pay their former presidents, republics are not automatically that much cheaper.

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        11 hours ago

        And all the bigoted right wing European governments are what?

        Which ones? At the moment I only see Italy and Hungary.

        France’s far-right can’t come to power as the other two third of the Parliament is Left and Center blocks.

        UK is labour: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premiership_of_Keir_Starmer

        The Dutch are in a coalition with the Centrists and the Farmers: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schoof_cabinet

        Germany has to vote again in February: https://feddit.org/post/6479021?scrollToComments=true

        Even Austria has a Centrist government: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehammer_government

        The European Parliament 2 first groups are Center-Right and Left: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_European_Parliament

        All the unelected head of states in Europe are democratic?

        Which ones? The kings and queens who have no political powers, or the prime ministers who come from the party with the most votes?

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          Unelected heads of state is clear. I did not say heads of government.

          History shows us that racism is to Europe as fish to the sea.

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            10 hours ago

            Unelected heads of state is clear.

            So the kings and queens who hold no political power?

            History shows us that racism is to Europe as fish to the sea.

            Racism was everywhere during human history.

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              10 hours ago

              No sir, that is a lie.

              Modern racism is very much rooted in European pseudo-scientific bullshit.

              And those kings and queens very much hold power, unofficially, off the books. It’s called corruption when it happens elsewhere but as we know Europeans are too pure and righteous to engage in corruption (at home), they only do it abroad when lobbying for contracts illegally.

              • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.org
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                Modern racism is very much rooted in European pseudo-scientific bullshit.

                Feel free to provide sources.

                And those kings and queens very much hold power, unofficially, off the books.

                When that happens, the king abdicates. Happened in Spain not too long ago https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdication_of_Juan_Carlos_I

                It’s called corruption when it happens elsewhere but as we know Europeans are too pure and righteous to engage in corruption (at home), they only do it abroad when lobbying for contracts illegally.

                Oh, don’t worry, we have plenty of corruption at home too: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_corruption_scandal_at_the_European_Parliament

                The one thing the European Union still hasn’t do is elect a leader similar to Trump (especially a convicted felon). As stated above, the European Parliament isn’t dominated by the far-right, and only 2 countries are currently governed by full far-right coalitions.