• Shiggles
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    15 hours ago

    What part of a 401k do you think is a scam lmao

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      12 hours ago

      The part where it’s defined-contribution instead of defined-benefit.

      To be perfectly honest, I personally am better served with a 401(k): I’m in an above-average earning career (engineering), have lived well below my means, and am financially literate.

      But most people are not like me. Frankly, the average worker in the US is either not competent or not disciplined enough to both actually contribute enough and invest it properly, and so as a nation we’re careening towards a disaster of geriatric poverty the likes of which hasn’t been seen since before Social Security was invented.

      So yeah, the American working class was definitely scammed when pensions were replaced with 401(k)s. But hell, even if you don’t understand the actual differences and implications, you could also tell it’s fishy even just by the fact that the execs were so eager to switch over!

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        15 hours ago

        Definitely some form of financial illiteracy which is certainly unfortunate but not to the detriment of all 401ks

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          15 hours ago

          it kinda is in that 401ks should not allow that pro job / anti worker bullshit

          it’s crazy how we as a society allow all that obvious gatcha type rules just to help rich fucks get richer

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            15 hours ago

            Sure, but be mad at vestment, not all 401ks have that.

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      15 hours ago

      The assumption that you’re going to live to a ripe old age and still remember your own name.

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        12 hours ago

        “Don’t plan for tomorrow because you might not live through today” is a great way to die horribly tomorrow.

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          11 hours ago

          That’s cute but guaranteed if you’re under 30. If you’re under 40, you’re going to lose any and everything you save.