Hey there.
As the title says, don’t you feel frustrated whenever a new video comes along and it’s just a blurry pixel doing mundane things?
15 years ago I saw something extraordinary, something that I tear up by just remembering. I won’t go into details because why would I? I’m a stranger on the internet and my experience has no weight cept for me. But I know what I saw, and I truly wonder why nobody ever caught something like that with a camera.
Video after video after images come out and all that I’m left saying to myself is “that’s not it”.
I’m just frustrated that the hallucination hypothesis is the best explanation for my sighting at this point.
how do you cope with that?
Okay, there’s definitely no point in debating with such a bad faith argumentation.
You didn’t compare the situation to Galileo’s, but were just pointing out the similarities between the situations? That’s some mental gymnastics.
I didn’t admit being ignorant about evidence, I said that I am not aware of any because there is none that is valid.
You talk a lot about evidence, what is it? Show me you scientific, non-belief evidence that is so strong and reliable and yet rejected by all scientists. Instead of fighting with wordplay and theatrics, repeating endlessly your “buzzwords”, “evidence”, “blind masses” and whatnot, it’s time to back your claims of the evidence being so overwhelming because as I said, the maximum I’ve found is a few people saying “we detected some particles that are similar to some we have on earth so maybe there could be some microbial life out there but we don’t have proof of it” which is pretty far from your extremely reliable (yet rejected by everyone) evidence.
"definitely no point in debating "
…proceeds to continue debating
“bad faith argumentation.”
again, it’s nice you learned buzzwords, but they don’t change the content of what has been said.
“You didn’t compare the situation to Galileo’s”
correct.
“but were just pointing out the similarities between the situations”
not at all. I was pointing out that you are acting the same as one of the masses who ridiculed and disbelieved Galileo despite his scientific reasoning, and if you were around one Galileo was showing people scientific equations supporting heliocentrism, you would have vilified him rather than looking at those scary numbers.
literally the same thing I’ve been saying from the beginning.
there is evidence, you don’t believe in scientific evidence, and The evidence makes you upset for some reason.
as anyone can see back in my first comment, I’m in the “disclosure happened and nobody cares” phase.
“That’s some mental gymnastics.”
at this point, I’m no longer surprised that a direct 1-to-1 comparison confuses you or seems like some sort of phenomenal mental feat.
“I didn’t admit being ignorant about evidence,”
hang on just one sentence…
“I said that I am not aware of any”
there it is, the definition of ignorance and your admission thereof.
“because there is none that is valid.”
being ignorant of the evidence, there’s no way you can conclusively determine its validity.
not to mention your willful disregard of scientific evidence in general.
“evidence, what is it?”
again, radar, telemetry, radiological data, video, photos from defense departments and aerial surveillance, trained witnesses and observers, and credible witness testimony.
this was all said 10 comments ago, and you said you didn’t believe in telemetry, radiological data, radar and other types of scientific evidence.
The national press club conference in 2007 is a great resource to get started, but it’s 6 hours long, so if you watch “I know what I saw” they’ll go over of a couple of the highlights regarding intelligently designed and maneuvered craft that you should be able to follow and can look further into.
“wordplay and theatrics”
conflating your ignorance with scientific evidence is the only way you can think radar, photography, hard data or video is some sort of wordplay or theatrics.
it looks like in the end you’ve mistaken my earlier statistical metaphor of sand on a beach with concrete scientific evidence of lichen existing on multiple interstellar grains of sand.
try scrolling up to remember what this thread is even about and what you are so hysterically refusing to engage with.
How exactly is ignoring the scientific protocol and interpreting random things as “scientific evidence” something reasonable? Random readings that are absolutely not proof, testimonies, those are your proofs?
None of those hold to scientific standard and that’s exactly why apart from a few clues of microbial life possibly existing, nothing else is admitted scientifically. It has nothing to do with Galileo or made-up statistics.
I thought you would try to give evidence of life being detected from organic molecules on asteroids or whatever, not that you would fully go on the conspiracist line of aliens in spaceships taking a trip to earth and being recorded, with the records then discredited by science as if it was all a big scheme.
Not a single record on earth made it past the scientific protocol, at most reaching the point of “we don’t know but have no reason to believe it came from aliens”. Because you know what? If it did, it would be admitted by science.
“How exactly is ignoring the scientific protocol and interpreting random things as “scientific evidence” something reasonable?”
it isn’t, as I’ve stated multiple times. your irrational fear of scientific evidence as something “unreasonable” is one of your problems.
“…those are your proofs?”
nnnope, those sound like more things you’re making up in your head.
“None of those hold to scientific standard”
you not understanding how radar, video and photos work doesn’t mean that radar, video and photo evidence isn’t real.
you are just ignorant.
“It has nothing to do with Galileo or made-up statistics.”
and yet you consistently bring them up for no reason.
weird.
“conspiracist…”
again, radar is not a conspiracy. video is not a conspiracy. these are simple recording and measurement tools that you are ignorant of.
radiation is not a conspiracy. it occurs all around you all the time.
“Not a single record on earth made it past the scientific protocol”
…you should definitely try to explain this.
I am laughing at everything you write, but I expect you trying to prove that there’s never been a “single record on Earth that made it past the scientific protocol” should be hilarious.
“If it did, it would be admitted by science.”
you doubt that video, photo and radar have been admitted by science?
are you ancient or perhaps 3 years old?
boy are you in for a surprise.
those technologies, and many others, are well documented and scientifically accepted.
what methodology do you think the screen you’re staring at right now is a product of If not the scientific process?
magic?
guesswork?
Wow, you’re actually unable to form a coherent answer at this point.
Also just a little thing, you’re the one with unfounded beliefs having the burden of the proof, not me. I can’t and don’t have to prove that your beliefs are not facts, you’re the one having to prove what you claim, and all you’ve been doing is telling me that pictures and videos are an existing technology as if it ever was in question.
If someone questioning your beliefs makes you go completely haywire then you should probably see with a professional, this is out of the scope of a discussion on lemmy.
“Wow, you’re actually unable to form a coherent answer at this point.”
That’s another one of your mistakes.
in order to receive an answer, you’ll need to ask a question.
which I understand seems very challenging for you.
“you’re the one with unfounded beliefs having the burden of the proof”
dude, you being unaware of how radar works is not my problem.
I don’t have to prove an 80 year old technology because you don’t believe in science, you have to learn how to read.
I agree you should see a professional, but they’re going to agree with me that video, photo and radar are very common technologies that you should be familiar with by this point.
established, scientific processes widely accepted by all.
you don’t like science, that’s your deal, but you are in the minority here.
everybody else agrees that radar, video and photo technologies are real.
your limitations are your own.
Are you high?
Radars and pictures work and exist, that’s pretty far from proving aliens are here.
Are you really not a troll? That’s hard to believe.
“Are you high?”
relatively, although I’m not sure what that has to do with your disbelief in scientific evidence.
oh…or are your beliefs… evolving…
“Radars and pictures work and exist”
hey! there you go!
it only took…seven comments for you to come around?
honestly, that’s pretty good.
It has to do with your inability to form a coherent conversation.
The rest of your reply proved my point.