“No, the opposite. In fact, I’m going to be letting two officers from Washington police DC, I believe they’re from DC, but I just approved it,” Trump said. “They were arrested, put in jail for five years, because they went after an illegal, and I guess something happened where something went wrong and they arrested the two officers and put them in jail for going after a criminal. A rough criminal, by the way. And I’m actually releasing… no I’m the friend, I am the friend of police more than any president who’s ever been in this office.”
Everyone is “an illegal” now if it’s politically convenient.
I guess something happened where something went wrong
WTF, he doesn’t even know the full details of these people and he just went ahead and pardoned them?
What a clown.
It is likely that the vast majority of what he is signing was someone else’s idea. Maybe he agrees with it, maybe he is just doing it because he was complimented when it was handed to him, but it is extremely unlikely that he initiated more than a few of the things he has signed.
My money is on Stephen “Nazi Nosferatu” Miller.
Hylton-Brown is a US citizen, police say, and not in the country illegally as the president claims
That sounds like “illegal” talk to me
Yeah, but also despite being born with a penis, and making no attempt to ever change my gender, I’m now legally a female. And so are you if you’re an American.
I thought that quote was you mocking him because if how much it sounds like a toddler…
He did it to win the police union back after pardoning January 6 criminals who threw bombs at police and hit them with metal bats.
Give the people what they want 🥴
I think it’s time Congress got off their ass and took away the power of presidential pardons. This is clearly not working as intended.
What are the chances that you could buy a certain crypto coin and then serendipitously get pardoned for some crime or another.
Hipotetically.
But what will we do with Turkeys???
They turned off their body cameras and mislead their supervisors about what happened.
Is that the new standard then?
This is getting stupid … why the hell does the US allow pardons in the first place? … it’s now just used as a political tool to hand out pardons for propaganda and promotion.
Justice and Law is slowly evaporating because it is all hinging on what ruler is power and whether or not they will pardon whoever is most convenient to pardon.
why the hell does the US allow pardons in the first place?
They thought only honorable men would run for president, and the people would only elect honorable men…
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(yes, the term “men” is intentional, because back then women were seen as property)
back then women were seen as property
Yeah I’m kind of thinking that opinion hasn’t changed for some based on recent events
Goes to window
Points at American legislation in the last several years
Dammit…you stole the comment I was going to make, then went back in tkme, and made it an hour before I could…
A lot of loopholes now used were because they knew it was an imperfect start and assumed that when problems were found or new laws needed the Constitution would be changed. In some cases we’ve done that, in many we haven’t. I think one of the founders wanted to include mandatory revisions over a period, but again the general presumption was that we’d see the need and do it without being forced to.
Thomas Jefferson, for his many faults, thought each generation should rewrite the constitution to reflect their views and keep it modern.
Many faults? The dude peace’d out to France, partied with the local nightlife, got drunk, got laid, and still found time to be a founding father.
If everybody listened to him, the constitution would be rewritten, and we’d all be drunk and having sex at work.
What’s the fault?
It goes back to the royal prerogative of mercy, an English tradition. Because the forefather’s mostly made a parliamentary monarchy, but with some democratic ideas mixed in.
Maybe a stupid question, but: How broad are the presidential pardon powers?
Could he pre-emptively pardon anyone who will kill person X?
Could he blanket-pardon all cops convicted of a crime while on duty?
Could he pardon himself for all crimes past, present and future?Extremely broad, for federal crimes. None of your examples have been tested yet.
Expect them to be.
Pardons cannot apply to the future*
*Unless you start seeing John Roberts doing a nazi salute, then you should get ready, because you’re about to be in a camp
remind me 2 years
Quite the optimism on how long it will take when the guy who bought a new department was throwing nazi salutes during the inauguration.
didn’t Biden just preemptively pardon his family?
He did.
But the meaning of “preemptive” is more like a “Just in case”, rather than, “immune from future offences”.
They were all pardoned from 2014 until now, but trump admin could theoretically invent a new case that allegedly happened on Jan 21 and make an investigstion out of it. (It probably wouldn’t go very far tho, I mean considering that even an indictment requires a majority of a grand jury to indict)
seems like preemptive ones and reflexive ones havent been tested but we are probably about to find out what happens when the prez, congress, and judiciary are all politically aligned and wanna do evil.
Others basically covered it, but just to be concise:
Pardons only apply to federal crimes, not state laws/crimes. For federal crimes, they’re extremely broad.
Pre-pardons are not a thing, but the president could pardon someone after the commission of the crime and before their arrest. So, almost.
The president almost certainly can pardon themselves for any federal crimes but not preemptively. It could probably be a full on blanket pardon.
If the people don’t get justice from the government, we’ll get it ourselves.
Hi Luigi. My name is also Luigi. Are there any other Luigis in the room?
To be expected when a criminal is elected.
Inb4 dylan roof pardon…
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and I guess something happened where something went wrong
So smart. Knows all the details. A True Leader.
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