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      I’m sure Kamala was going to be exactly the same. /s

      Pretty much the only difference is she wouldn’t say it out loud, frankly. She clearly stated she had Israel’s back, regardless of what anyone said. I mean, look at how she reacted to people stating, to her face, that they could not vote for her, due to that.

      And what did she do? She doubled down on her support for the genocide.

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      She was, the only difference is she wouldn’t come out and say it bluntly to the American public.

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      Fuck off with this nonsense. Kamala would literally push the same policies, just like Joe did. The only difference would be that she’d use vague and hollow language to keep a pretense of humanity up so people could continue pretending that they themselves are not contributing to this atrocity. Your naive picture of mainstream Democrats is why that party continues to be as ineffective as it’s been for 50 years. I welcome all the neoliberal Lemmy downvotes. Assholes.

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        Interesting how you’re more interested in condemning Biden and Harris for this thing they didn’t do than Trump for doing it. In fact, you seem very unbothered by the actual plan here because the Democrats weren’t involved.

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            I can’t even blame Russia at this point. These people seriously do not give a shit about this genocide apart from the political points it can score them.

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          In fact, you seem very unbothered by the actual plan here because the Democrats weren’t involved.

          The difference is? Trump didn’t lie about it, he said, outright this is what he was going to do. Harris planned to do the exact same thing, but with a pride flag, and it would have been a woman making the bombs being dropped onto kids.

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          I will think back to threads like this every time I wonder why Democrats never achieve anything meaningful and the country continues to lurch toward fascism. You all seem to be more interested in team sports than actually having principles and expectations for your own party.

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            The “leftists” on here literally supported Trump. Their reason doesn’t matter, they’re fascism-enabling Trump supporters in every way that matters.

            If you didn’t vote, or if you didn’t vote for Kamala, you helped Trump get elected. That’s not politics, it’s math.

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              The “leftists” on here literally supported Trump.

              I’m a leftist, and I do not, nor have ever, supported Trump. I just didn’t support the other genocider, either. Because I have principles that I stand on, one of which is “Never give support to genociders”.

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                  Your inaction is part of the problem.

                  Why isn’t Harris’ inaction part of the problem? I mean, she could have said,“You know, genocide is bad, and when I take office, I will end all support for Israel until they agree to an immediate ceasefire?”

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                    She was never President, so we’ll never know. Trump literally said he was going to “finish the problem” but you didn’t see any problems with letting him take office. How do you defend that decision?

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          That everyone who disagrees with me is a “neoliberal”?

          No, just that anyone who doesn’t cut off someone for being a genocider is a neoliberal ghoul.