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The former parliamentary budget officer Kevin Page projects a contraction in the neighbourhood of the 2009 recession, somewhere between a 2 to 2.5 per cent drop in GDP, along with a ballooning national deficit and debt.

But there’s an even bigger story being re-written. It involves Canada’s place in the world after 90 years of increased tethering to the U.S. If Trump plows forward he’d be interrupting far more than a few decades of Canada-U.S. free trade; he’d be ending an era that stretches back even longer.

Canada and the United States have steadily built closer economic ties with each other since 1935, as they clawed out of an interminable depression.

These two leaders, Prime Minister Mackenzie King, left, and President Franklin D. Roosevelt, spent a year negotiating the removal of tariffs on hundreds of products during the Great Depression. It set the pattern for generations of trade opening. (National Archives of Canada)

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    Very hard for me to not hate all Americans today.

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      Not all, just the majority 😕

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        I hate a lot of people for different reasons.

        I hate the people who voted for him, but they are not the majority.

        I hate the people who stayed home. I get it. Harris had issues. But so many were saying they didn’t want it vote for her because of Gaza. Now, Gaza will get glassed while we have so many more problems at home.

        Personally, I don’t care if it seems selfish, I do not have the capacity to care about Gaza anymore. The only chance we had was convincing Harris. Now I’m too worried about what will happen to me and my friends as queer people.

        And that’s before we get to the general economic issues. Shit is about to get really desperate for everyone.

        So many of us tried to get those people to see. I’m positive much of the Gaza stance was being pushed by the right to split the left. We’ll it worked. They fell for it. Now we have even more issues.

        I can not say this with any more virtiol: fuck anyone who didn’t vote for Harris, regardless of the reason, but especially if it was an active decision because of Gaza. You both actively made things worse for Gaza and doomed us all.

        You wanted shortsighted smug feel goods about taking a moral high ground. In doing so, you paved the way for fascism and laid down the fucking red carpet.

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          Muslim Americans were kind of okay with Trump because they generally agree with most conservative ideology, including Christofascism.

          Largely, they don’t really care about gay people.

          Or Mexicans. Or black people. Or women, even as women themselves.

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    Trump’s unfounded/false declaration of a national emergency, along with justifying tariffs based on small deficit and opportunity to extort sovereignty, and refusing to negotiate, or accept the substantial Canadian appeasement policies, and photo ops, of the last week, makes these tariffs an act of war.

    Demand your politicians act accordingly.

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      Our politicians are already planning to act accordingly with retaliatory measures. What would you prefer they do instead?

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        Go hard and target US corporations by invalidating US trade laws and allowing affected Canadian manufacturing to make lower cost tech products without the greed monopoly margins.

        Cory Doctorow link

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          Heck yeah! If USMCA/NAFTA2 is out the window, ditch all that IP BS. Cory Doctorow is so correct!

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        “we will be allied again” - Ford.

        There needs to be movements to decouple from US empire, instead of promising loyalty forever, no matter what. US needs to be made to beg for forgiveness. ALL international partners that can aid and diversify Canada trade needs to be brought onboard. Big 3 automakers need to pledge loyalty to Canada, and if they don’t, our extreme subsidy level for them needs to be transferred to ones who will commit to Canadian market.

        I don’t know how Canada-Mexico trade will work. But foreign assistance to get ships to transfer goods may be needed. Demonizing Russia needs to end. Can get them to refine our oil into gasoline if we need, enrich our uranium either for export tariff to US, or realizing we need enriched uranium for defense.

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          Demonizing Russia needs to end.

          Not until they get their military the hell out of Ukraine and start acting like reasonable members of international society.

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            Ukraine is a US puppet leading the demonization/threats/instigation of war on Russia. Our political/media loyalty to US is only reason for believing disinformation to the contrary. Our sycophancy to US policy on China is self-destructive. Sanctions on North Korea is blind subservience to US. Have to stop pretending democracy is working in US and Canada as a US colony.

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              We can stop sucking the US’s dick without replacing it with Russia’s, China’s, or… North fucking Korea’s?

              Seriously, making hating the US your whole personality doesn’t make the fake communists a) worthwhile or b) communists.

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                Declaration of war on Canada, means having to make new friends. Ukraine is unlikely to be in a position to provide friendly assistance to Canada, and so not the best friend to have.

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                  I’d rather die with my morals intact than survive by using others as stepping stones.

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          Demonizing Russia needs to end.

          That’s really up to Russia, isn’t it

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            This guy can slip pro Russian propaganda into a comment on literally any topic. I’ve had him tagged for months, often the highest level comment will seem pretty normal and then the deeper you get through the comments the more it just becomes “Russia good”.

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            Demonizing Russia needs to end.

            That’s really up to Russia, isn’t it

            Yeah, they’re literally just acting like demons. There’s no “izing”, they’re just being demons, and people are calling it as they see it.

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              Some people just don’t realize that the USA being bad doesn’t make other countries good.

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    Why? Even to his strongest supporter this must seem… unnecessary? Canada’s America’s hat. We’re wearing it straight. Why fuck with the hat?