• TommySoda@lemmy.world
    36·
    9 hours ago

    Very dumb question, but I’m kinda new to Linux. Do I have to manually update that or does it just do it when I update packages and the like? I’m on Arch btw.

    • 97xBang@feddit.onlineEnglish
      6·
      56 minutes ago

      There’s no way you’re so new to Linux that you wouldn’t know if that would update automatically yet you’re running Arch btw. That’s like saying, “Do I need to do oil changes on my car? I built my engine, btw.”

    • Communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzEnglish
      1·
      6 minutes ago

      On linux, generally everything you install is through a centralized repository, you can think of it as an app store, arch is all entirely updated through pacman, pacman is just a command line way to interact with the app store.

    • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      11·
      1 hour ago

      I am not sure if anyone answered your question in a way that you were expecting so let me try

      yes you will get the update but you might not know it because your config wont change, so you have to go into the theme settings and use the “default” to see the pretty

        • Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee
          33·
          6 hours ago

          “I use Arch BTW” is a meme in the Linux community. It reflects the perceived urge of Arch users to boast about using it.

          Welcome to Linux :)

        • TimeNaan@lemmy.world
          510·
          4 hours ago

          Then Arch is kind of a terrible choice for you. I use it (btw), but I’ve been using linux since 2008.

          The learning curve and constant need to troubleshoot things isn’t great for beginners.

          EDIT: can someone explain why I’m getting downvoted? Isn’t this common knowledge that Mint and other begginner-friendly distros that don’t have complicated package managers and require less configuration and maintenance are better for someone who’s just starting with Linux?

          I myself began with Ubuntu back in '08 but nowadays use both Arch and Mint.

          • TommySoda@lemmy.world
            12·
            3 hours ago

            That’s one of the reasons I chose arch. Because of the difficulty i can’t take shortcuts or be lazy and have to actually learn. When I tried something like Pop_OS I definitely enjoyed it but didn’t really learn anything because it was all done for me.

            • cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de
              2·
              2 hours ago

              Arch Linux can be a bit overwhelming for newbies when trying out for the first time. Hey if you are comfortable with it then so be it. But if you have tried other friendly distros before this you can get an understanding of different package managers, arch packages, AUR etc. And to answer the question if you installed KDE through pacman or AUR helper, then it will be updated automatically when you update other packages through it.

    • KubeRoot@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      5·
      5 hours ago

      In general, almost everything you install with pacman will update when you do pacman -Syu (and restart, in case of kernel updates). The way packages work, all the files needed for a piece of software to function are installed from a package, and when you install a newer version, it removes all the files from the old version and puts in new ones. (Caveats apply to configuration files you can modify - those don’t get replaced if you do)

      So after you update some software through pacman, it should be in an entirely clean state, just like if you just installed it. The main caveats apply to things like flatpak, which manage its own packages, and software like Steam and Discord, which have an additional auto-updater for some things that’s storing files separately.

    • superkret@feddit.org
      30·
      9 hours ago

      It does it automatically.
      But make sure to read the Arch news before every update, especially when it’s a lot of packages. Something big like a new KDE Release might require minor manual intervention.

      • Owl@mander.xyz
        25·
        7 hours ago

        I’m more of an “update first, care later” type of person

        And it works great, 100% recommended to newbies

        Oh and make a separate home partition, just in case

      • omgitsaheadcrab
        12·
        7 hours ago

        I’ve literally only read the news the 1 or 2 times there was a breaking change during an update. Blindly updating (non-AUR) has served me fine for over 10 years

        • somenonewho@feddit.org
          1·
          7 hours ago

          Well everyone’s milage may vary. I have set up informant some time ago so I’m forced to read the news on updates. But much more importantly I’ve ignored .pacnew files for years till it bit me in the ass when a Pam config file change broke my login so now I’m not ignoring.pacnew but merging them every update.

            • KubeRoot@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
              1·
              5 hours ago

              I would recommend doing it manually - you can get a GUI diff tool (I like Meld), run it with both the normal file and pacnew, and merge every change from the pacnew into the main file.

              • Kyouki@lemmy.world
                1·
                4 hours ago

                I’ve been using topgrade as of late and was worried it would break my files. Have to check what it changes specifically.

                Always when it prompt me, been ignoring it for now as one of the files is my rc files that gets changed.

                Thank you

      • kusivittula@sopuli.xyz
        4·
        5 hours ago

        I have tried both kde and gnome many times and i can’t stand either one. I’m forever stuck in cinnamon.

        somehow every distro that ships with kde has tons of big bugs that I can’t figure out (probably related to my setup), and gnome feels like a tablet UI. cinnamon won’t autosuspend but it’s the smallest headache of these…

        • BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca
          2·
          2 hours ago

          Funny enough Cinnamon is Gnome 3 done right.

          And I agree gnome in general has its sore points, I’m just used to them.

      • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
        91·
        7 hours ago

        I don’t even know which version of GNOME I run anymore. I only notice when the GNOME devs remove some feature I used to use.

        • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          5·
          7 hours ago

          Yeah, about the same. Honestly I’m in a state that I don’t really care even. GNOME does everything that I need it to while being very invisible and out of the way and I love it