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    That guy is choking on copium. Downing in it.

    There is no such thing as “gains” here, long or short term. This is 100% bad.

    If you want more local production, you incentivize that, not hugely disincentivize everything else.

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      What do you mean? There are plenty of gains to be had…

      …for the already rich and powerful.

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    “protected after Trump’s term”

    So executive orders are useless for this, and what concessions are Republicans willing to make to get a Senate super majority to pass an amendment, which hasn’t happened in most of our lifetimes?

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    Okay, so, being incredibly generous here, I sort of get their point, but why not slowly ramp tariffs up to allow domestic production to catch up? Because fuck you, that’s why.

    And, as always, none of any of the false promises of prosperity excuse any of the hate Trump spreads.

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      Instead, the xenophobic hate from an economic idiot is believable enough to start a worldwide depression over trying to get batteries for Elon while making pop-up-factories with AI staff I guess?

      Or of course the alternative wartime “economy”.

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    I voted for what’s best for the country moving forward

    Bigotry? Ignorance of economics? Or both?

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      Both and probably a lot more. He’s pretty confident that this won’t affect him too much. I am sure the leopards continue to circle for a second pass at him.

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        Or that if it does, it’s a sacrifice he’s willing to make for Glorious Leader.

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    Man these guys are so dumb I can’t 😂😂 “I voted for this, but…” 🤣 I would feel pity for this poor sob normaly but I’m done with their nonsense.

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    Gen X’er here, guessing this person hasn’t had to look for a job in a while. Especially when externalities make the search more difficult, like having an entire sector upended.

    It took 1500 applications, over 100 interviews, and 4 years to find my current position. And, this was a callback from a prior rejection! They let the first person go that I interviewed with due to sabotaging intake because they were insecure in their position. Have fun with all that.

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      The last position I interviewed (other people) for, we had over 2,000 total applicants, and this was before the huge swaths of layoffs that are currently happening and being planned.

      The country is doomed, literally millions of people are about to be (many of which already are) out of work, while ALL public resources and support are being dissolved by the current regime.

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      Average conservative.

      They don’t see what the problem is until they get face-eaten. The sad part is the ones who go “Well as long as those brown people get it worse!”

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      Millennial here, 100% agree. I’m very good at what I do in my field and have a chonky resume of experience. I used to get job offers unprompted on practically a weekly basis. Years ago my apply-to-interview-to-offer % was like 70%+.

      In the last couple of years this has shifted dramatically. I do not receive job offers unprompted, because they simply aren’t there. The number of listed jobs has tanked, the ones worth applying for i typically don’t hear anything back from, not even a rejection. One the other day I was told it wasn’t a real position that was open and was simply posted for some HR reason or some crap.

      Layoffs across the board are on the rise so there are more people than ever looking and less jobs available.

      It took my friend ~1yr to find a job after his last layoff.

      This person is in for a world of hurt…and frankly, I have zero sympathy for them specifically.

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        Regarding sympathy - he is no different than the others who voted for this. These kinds of people aren’t ready to have been wrong. So they claim they expected it. His reply is nothing but an attempt to cope with his bad choices.

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          It’s absolutely a person speaking out loud to justify everything and avoid thinking about hardship. Humans are great at that.

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      Don’t worry, when the tree he’s under starts letting the rain through, he’ll just move to a new tree.

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      That’s not even mentioning all the AI automated posting the people and head hunter companies ate doing that is overloading your legit application submissions.

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        Software Engineer, typically on a contract / consulting basis, proficiently full stack + cloud infrastructure.

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      It obviously isn’t true, but if their statement was consistent, they would be happy to ensure that if it meant the country was better off 🙄

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      “It’ll be a short term hardship, but great for the long term!”

      long term effects that FSUBAR*

      *fuck shit up beyond all reason

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    Fine, if he still supports this although he is suffering from it, his choice. But making a lot of others suffer from this, possibly in the long run, just makes him an ignorant asshole.

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      I knew I would suffer, but I’ll be okay. I’m also making everyone else suffer along with me, and I decided that was okay too.

      The selfishness of the average voter everyone. Notice he didn’t talk about anyone else there except in terms of “whiners” while in the same breath admitting he is causing more suffering.

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        They said that it would be more suffering in the short term for them, but it would protect their future and their country

        This wasnt about selfishness, this was about being disinformed

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          No there’s still selfishness. They don’t consider how much short term suffering affects other people. If that person owns their home, has savings, can brace for not having a job for a while that’s great. But it’s pretty blase to say that they’ll be fine while they disregard everyone else who isn’t set up as well

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            You can ignore a lot of things if you think its for the greater good

            Also, being selfish and not thinking through all consequences is not the same thing

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              Yes but the selfishness lies in how he claims he will be fine, without regard for others. Selfish. He isn’t either selfish or ignorant, he is both.

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                They are saying that they would be fine in the context of being a part of the people that would suffer. They might have not considered that there are people in worse situations

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    American conservatives are so fucking dumb. I hope they get everything they voted for, fuck them.

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      Sadly, they get everything they voted for and so does everyone else. They “are fine” with people suffering, and because of this everyone else is forced to suffer and/or watch other suffer.

      They deserve more bad things than what they voted for. Fuck them.

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        It’s like we’re all playing a game together, and these yokles think that if they increase the difficulty level people who are just marginally getting by will suffer a lot more than they will, and they’re sure that by being part of the favored team they can be exempt from the more difficult rules enitrely

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    TFW you’re being principled and thinking long-term but your principles and thinking are a total disaster

    • 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆@lemmy.world
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      The leopards are eating everyone’s faces, including mine. While this is usually deadly to others, I’ll be fine. I’m willing to take the gamble for everyone as a whole that if enough of their faces are eaten, things will be better long-term. The whiners need to grow a spine and let the leopards eat because the payoff will be worth it.

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        The gammon types do know that their faces will get eaten, the important thing to them is that the people they hate will have their faces eaten even more. That’s what happens when your life revolves around hating others.

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    Well I’ll say two things, first the old /r/conservative would never have allowed this open of a discussion. I don’t know if these stayed up long but I remember people even going very slightly against the Fox narrative being banned.

    Also this guy, completely and utterly misguided though I believe he is, at least has the courage of his convictions. He’s willing to make a sacrifice for what he thinks is good for the country. I very much doubt he’s right but still, that’s more than most people can say.

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      The question remains, does “good for the country” mean good for the citizens, or good for the elite?

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        Yeah. The dude that came up with the term cognitive dissonance described this process in his book When Prophesy Fails. Basically when you are in a cult and your doomsday ends up being a normal day you have a freak out of cognitive dissonance. This isn’t great because people don’t like having their strongly held beliefs shown to be invalid. So they must come up with a post hoc rationalization as to why their doomsday didn’t come true and why they are still right.

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        May also just be a troll tactic. Sowing retrofitted justification with ai. The first comment is bait.

        I honestly cant tell anymore. Dead internet theory moving fast on that site.

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    The current situation we find ourselves in makes me think of this quote more than ever:

    Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.

    H.L. Mencken