Russia is a country plagued with corrupted authorities and where the draft is mandatory, calling these things out goes against russia government interests too.
Not when your justification is their propaganda. You’re just spreading their disinformation in ignorance, rather than malice. The effect is the same, regardless.
Human rights shouldn’t be abolish under any circumstance, there’s no scenario under which slavery is tolerated.
Human rights are not objective facts of reality. They’re a social contrivance. Furthermore, conscription is not slavery, and virtually every country with a military has a draft available. I’m thankful that my country, the US, has not needed to use it in decades, but it is still there, and there are real punishments for trying to dodge it (unless you’re rich).
Some of the countries he visit literally have royal palaces like Abu Dhabi.
So what? He doesn’t get to choose the venues; that’s just where they are. You think he can effectively beg for money over Zoom while in a bunker?
War isn’t fair, and drafts supercede some of people’s rights. You can feel whatever you’re going to feel about it, but the reality is that we wouldn’t need drafts if there weren’t any authoritarians with delusions of grandeur.
But there are, and so even well-militarized countries with lots of volunteers still have drafts for times of emergency.
Can you point out the disinformation? Mostly of what i’m saying is that the ukranian government is drafting people by force and not allowing men 18-60 to leave the country with the result that people trying to cross the border are getting arrested and some died trying. As a result i’m pointing out ukrainian government ceo to be an authoritarian ruler rather than a hero that should deserve monuments.
and virtually every country with a military has a draft available.
Most countries are police states rooted in violence. US and any other should have no draft, it is not normal or good just because it’s there.
So what? He doesn’t get to choose the venues; that’s just where they are.
I’m just highlighting that meeting the world most powerful rulers in their headquarters is not the same as rooting in a trench.
but the reality is that we wouldn’t need drafts if there weren’t any authoritarians with delusions of grandeur.
Indeed if it wasn’t for deluded maniacs with power ambitions we wouldn’t have the draft, that’s why i’m calling them out.
I did. Read my first comment. I specified where the disinformation is, and you would be wise to heed that these are almost verbatim Russian propaganda talking points they use to justify why they should just be allowed to take Ukraine.
Whether you think it’s fair for the draft to exist is irrelevant when you’re staring down the barrel of an invading country. They’re coming, and the draft exists to ensure the country does as well. I am sorry for them that people are trying to escape the draft, but again: war is not fair.
If the draft didn’t exist, the end result would be might makes right. The countries who didn’t have enough volunteers would lose, and the country with the bigger stick would always be the victor. Human lives would be spared, sure, but at what cost? Living as a conquered people is not defacto better just because you’re alive. One need only look at history to see that fact.
I’m just highlighting that meeting the world most powerful rulers in their headquarters is not the same as rooting in a trench.
Nobody said it was. But that doesn’t mean he’s never been in the trenches or that what he’s doing isn’t still vital. War isn’t fair.
Indeed if it wasn’t for deluded maniacs with power ambitions we wouldn’t have the draft, that’s why i’m calling them out.
Since you said “them,” I’m going to assume you’re including Zelenski. The draft isn’t a grab for power. It’s not some method of controlling the population. It’s a last resort method of survival, and last resorts of any kind usually come with heavy costs, or else they would be first resorts.
So you’re not “calling anyone out” or saying anything particularly novel or relevant to human rights when “rights” are a privilege you get from a society that is not at war. War is not fair.
Not when your justification is their propaganda. You’re just spreading their disinformation in ignorance, rather than malice. The effect is the same, regardless.
Human rights are not objective facts of reality. They’re a social contrivance. Furthermore, conscription is not slavery, and virtually every country with a military has a draft available. I’m thankful that my country, the US, has not needed to use it in decades, but it is still there, and there are real punishments for trying to dodge it (unless you’re rich).
So what? He doesn’t get to choose the venues; that’s just where they are. You think he can effectively beg for money over Zoom while in a bunker?
War isn’t fair, and drafts supercede some of people’s rights. You can feel whatever you’re going to feel about it, but the reality is that we wouldn’t need drafts if there weren’t any authoritarians with delusions of grandeur.
But there are, and so even well-militarized countries with lots of volunteers still have drafts for times of emergency.
Can you point out the disinformation? Mostly of what i’m saying is that the ukranian government is drafting people by force and not allowing men 18-60 to leave the country with the result that people trying to cross the border are getting arrested and some died trying. As a result i’m pointing out ukrainian government ceo to be an authoritarian ruler rather than a hero that should deserve monuments.
Most countries are police states rooted in violence. US and any other should have no draft, it is not normal or good just because it’s there.
I’m just highlighting that meeting the world most powerful rulers in their headquarters is not the same as rooting in a trench.
Indeed if it wasn’t for deluded maniacs with power ambitions we wouldn’t have the draft, that’s why i’m calling them out.
I did. Read my first comment. I specified where the disinformation is, and you would be wise to heed that these are almost verbatim Russian propaganda talking points they use to justify why they should just be allowed to take Ukraine.
Whether you think it’s fair for the draft to exist is irrelevant when you’re staring down the barrel of an invading country. They’re coming, and the draft exists to ensure the country does as well. I am sorry for them that people are trying to escape the draft, but again: war is not fair.
If the draft didn’t exist, the end result would be might makes right. The countries who didn’t have enough volunteers would lose, and the country with the bigger stick would always be the victor. Human lives would be spared, sure, but at what cost? Living as a conquered people is not defacto better just because you’re alive. One need only look at history to see that fact.
Nobody said it was. But that doesn’t mean he’s never been in the trenches or that what he’s doing isn’t still vital. War isn’t fair.
Since you said “them,” I’m going to assume you’re including Zelenski. The draft isn’t a grab for power. It’s not some method of controlling the population. It’s a last resort method of survival, and last resorts of any kind usually come with heavy costs, or else they would be first resorts.
So you’re not “calling anyone out” or saying anything particularly novel or relevant to human rights when “rights” are a privilege you get from a society that is not at war. War is not fair.