OP is at best is a useful idiot…
But I still don’t agree with censorship. Correct their bullshit and move on. These parasites hoping to get new recruits but that only works if person is not provided all information on the topic. So just drop proper counter arguments and let people make up their own minds.
Censorship breeds extermism and these idiots rely on disgruntled people as a source for new recruits.
Deny the parasite that source with transparent online discussion.
You’re misrepresenting what happened here just a little bit
Lol. Why do you focus on the third sentence in or something and somehow assume the 2 sentences before, containing 100% propaganda and misinformation, wouldn’t count towards propaganda and misinformation, but somehow it’s this one thing? Just tell me how an democratically elected president, who is still backed by like a vast majority of the citizens is somehow an authoritarian ruler?
And why do you keep having the same problem every 4 weeks?
YDI. The first sentence of every comment is literal Russian propaganda. Clutching your pearls at forced conscription during an ongoing invasion speaks to a level of privilege I rarely see, even online. Zelenski is touring “the royal courts,” because he’s prostrating himself to beg for money, weapons and aid for his country. Wars aren’t free, especially when you’re up against a global power.
You’re playing loose with the facts, and nobody is buying it.
Or would you rather they roll over and go, “Sorry, we’re all outta gas. Russia just has more bodies to throw at us”? Become part of Russia? Good thing you weren’t in charge of the country, or you would have run up the white flag years ago.
YDI, I live in Ukraine.
You are a tankie! And we both know you are lying about your alleged concern for human rights.
Let’s hope one day you will be on the recieving end of russian genocidal imperialism.
The story of Donbas Cowboy, Russell Bentley also comes to mind for some reason:
Bentley’s wife, Lyudmila, then claimed that Russian soldiers from a tank battalion abducted him.
According to the Investigative Committee, Vansyatsky, Agaltsev, and Iordanov tortured Bentley on April 8, and he died shortly afterward.
Vansyatsky and Agaltsev are suspected of blowing up a car with Bentley’s body in it and ordering Bazhin to get rid of what was left of his remains.
"A tankie is anyone that defends authoritarian state-capitalist dictators and the atrocities they’ve committed and continue to commit. "
I’m not defending any authoritarian state or ruler. I’m pointing out the wrongdoings perpetrated by one.
And we both know you are lying about your alleged concern for human rights.
I’m not lying perhaps you are. There are credible source pointing out human rights are being violated starting with the rule that no male between 18-60 can leave the country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobilization_in_Ukraine#2024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_conscription_crisis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANxo0gBM6GM
Let’s hope one day you will be on the recieving end of russian genocidal imperialism.
I hope that one day you and your people will be free from the russian empire and from your current authoritarian government.
You are a tankie! Don’t play dumb with me, look at the age of my account, I’ve been using Lemmy for a while.
You think you are the first tankie to come up with the “I just care about human rights” shpeel.
Everything about your style and tone points to malicious behaviour.
It’s transparent that you’re using mandatory conscription (which is legal in a state of emergency) as a hook to promote key russian propaganda narratives.
You’re not fooling anyone!
I’m bringing up my argument and discussing it with people. Your behaviour of calling me out looks more scummy honestly
hook to promote key russian propaganda narratives.
It’s actually defending the draft that is a key russian propaganda narrative because this invasion was made possible because russia has an army of conscripts.
The Ukraine war lovers on .world are as bad as the zionists on blahaj.
YDI.
How so?
You’re posts weren’t removed because you’re against forced conscription.
They were removed because you spread Russian propaganda and misnformation. Just like the mod said.
Russia propaganda persuade people that the draft is good and to join the army. Arguing against forced conscription and human rights violations does not benefit authoritarian dictatorships like russia or any other. You are wrongly labeling this as propaganda simply because i’m pointing out the finger at the side you like.
Conscription during a regime of emergency due to a foreign invasion is legal as per Ukrainian law.
Elections are lawfully suspended while an invasion is on. Because we need to protect our people and withstand an onslaught from the genocidal russians.
You know this and yet you keep pretending to be concerned about human rights.
You don’t even speak Ukrainian and you’ve never lived here. Your goal is to promote russian genocidal imperialism.
Conscription during a regime of emergency due to a foreign invasion is legal as per Ukrainian law.
It is also legal in russia and china that doesn’t mean that it is good or not a violation of human rights.
You know this and yet you keep pretending to be concerned about human rights.
Drafting people by force and not allowing them to flee the country beating them up and arresting them if they try to is a violation of human rights. You know this too.
You don’t live in Ukraine, you don’t speak Ukrainian, you don’t vote in Ukrainian elections, you don’t pay taxes in Ukraine.
We both know your real goal is promotion of russian propaganda narratives.
We both know your real goal is promotion of russian propaganda narratives.
What narrative i’m promoting? Arguing against forced conscription and against authoritarian governments does not benefit any russian narrative it actually goes against it! You don’t need to live in russia to call out its government and authoritarian laws.
It’s not about your stance on conscription. It’s about calling Zelensky and authoritarian ruler, spreading lies about government kidnappings, etc.
Go to .ml or lemmygard for that shit.
spreading lies about government kidnappings, etc.
That’s not a lie, it’s happening and that’s why i’m calling out zelenskyy as an authoritarian ruler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobilization_in_Ukraine#2024
“In 2023, harsher methods of mobilization began to be used, such as road blocks, business raids, and pulling people from the streets. In the latter half of 2023, videos surfaced online showing Ukrainian men violently dragged into vans and driven to the military recruiting centers”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_conscription_crisis
“Ukraine’s border service spokesman Andriy Demchenko stated that at least 30 people had died while trying to cross the Ukrainian border to escape mobilization.”
Go to .ml or lemmygard for that shit.
This is not “shit” and you should pay attention to it
This is PTB, sure, but you’re not new to Lemmy and you should already know that the average .world user has no problem with Ukrainians being used as proxy cannon fodder, so there’s a strong BPR vibe here too. You’re literally diving into the cesspool of Western narratives and then being shocked that it stinks.
Proxy cannon fodder? Get fucked you piece of shit.
This is a gencodial russian invasion, not a proxy war.
You don’t speak russian or Ukrainian, you’ve never lived in russia or Ukraine. This is just an online roleplay session for you.
Чому не державною, лайно?
I bet that at best you are a troll posing as a Ukrainian, and at worst one of those shithead clowns who managed to cross the border and are now gathering in the centres of Western capitals, protesting against ending war through negotiations so that other Ukrainians would continue to die while they are chilling in Berlin, Paris or Warsaw. Or worse, you’re one of those guys who wears a woman’s wig when going grocery shopping to avoid getting caught by TCC, and then returns home to continue his crusade in the comments of Telegram or Facebook for the glory of the Great Democratic Leader Bonevtik Zelensky. Anyway, you’re shit in either case.
You have very elaborate fantasies you tankie piece of shit.
Keep LARPing with your “western narratives” and other bullshit.
Що, не розумієш рідної мови, рагуль?
Well the fact here is that you don’t speak Ukrainian (while i do) and you’ve never lived in Ukraine (while I did as a kid). You’re just NAFO scum from some other country posing as Ukrainian to promote your bullshit propaganda. It’s obvious that all your knowledge of Ukraine comes from the media, not from your own life experience. Now, once you were exposed, you can get fucked.
Keep telling yourself that.
I am not buying your use of web translation tools.
You don’t actually need to know Ukrainian to write what you write. The funny thing is Ukrainians in Ukraine don’t speak that way.
The fact of the matter is you don’t live in Ukraine, you don’t have any idea of what people think here. And you are tankie scum.
You are willing to support genocidal imperialism for some online roleplay.
