• otp
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    1 day ago

    I’m going to hold the words of the people who are actually fighting against child exploration in much higher regard than someone who is defending AI-generated CSAM/CSEM. And honestly, I don’t understand why you’re defending it. It’s weirding me out…lol

    As I wrote in another comment,

    You can ask the model to generate murder scenes. You then have AI-generated images of murder scenes. That doesn’t mean anybody was killed.

    That’s all this is.

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      1 day ago

      That doesn’t mean anybody was killed.

      Or that any child was “explored.”

      I’m fucking disappointed that anyone professionally engaged in this wants to equate damning evidence of physical abuse with generic representation of the concept - for the exact reasons already described.

      There is an insurmountable difference between any depiction of a sex crime involving fictional children - and the actual sexual abuse of real living children. Fuck entirely off about throwing aspersions for why this distinction matters. If you don’t think child rape is fundamentally worse than some imagined depiction of same - fuck you.

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        1 day ago

        equate damning evidence of physical abuse with generic representation

        That’s not what it is.

        Just like AI-generated murder scenes are not being equated to physical evidence of someone having been murdered.

        I think you’re getting caught up in semantics. Can we at least agree that those AI-generated images are bad?

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          “Generated sexual abuse” is explicitly being equated to actual child rape.

          These 25 people were not charged with thinkin’ real hard about the possibility of murder. The sting is described like they were caught doing some murder.

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            22 hours ago

            The 25 people charged may have had other incriminating evidence against them.

            If you take issue with the law, take it up with the jurisdictions.

            If you think it should be perfectly okay for people to produce AI-generated CSEM, then I’m not really sure we can come to an agreement here.