Fairphone is great. I really can recommend it. It is a bit expensive at first and the specs are not something special, but mine seems to be almost indestructible. I dropped it like a 100 times and the screen is still fine. If it ever breaks I can replace it myself cheaply. I think in the long term, this makes it a lot better than many other phones. Also, a lot of the materials were sourced responsibly.
They remind you, and implore you, telling you that it can be a security risk, but they don’t secretly update in the background or stuff like that. Fairphone has also always been very supportive towards installing non-stock android OS on their devices, (including pure Linux distros for phones running well enough).
Having the entire production line in Europe sounds almost too good to be true, but then again other comments point to HMD.
Personally I think Fairphone is about as good as it gets, due to the commitment to conflict-free minerals and all that. I’ve been super happy with Fairphone for more than half a decade now. :)
You can also buy them new with /e/OS, which is a de-Googled Android developed open source by a French company called Murena.
Probably Fairphone (from the Netherlands) and Shiftphone (from Germany), but that surely depends on how you define production.
Fairphone is great. I really can recommend it. It is a bit expensive at first and the specs are not something special, but mine seems to be almost indestructible. I dropped it like a 100 times and the screen is still fine. If it ever breaks I can replace it myself cheaply. I think in the long term, this makes it a lot better than many other phones. Also, a lot of the materials were sourced responsibly.
Do they force updates on users or can these be rejected completely?
They remind you, and implore you, telling you that it can be a security risk, but they don’t secretly update in the background or stuff like that. Fairphone has also always been very supportive towards installing non-stock android OS on their devices, (including pure Linux distros for phones running well enough).
They even have a list on their forum with OSs you can install. https://forum.fairphone.com/t/operating-systems-for-fairphones/11425
That’s helpful, thank you. This kind of crap from Samsung drove me insane.
Why would you reject updates?
Because I want to.
“I want to be left with security holes unpatched”
Having the entire production line in Europe sounds almost too good to be true, but then again other comments point to HMD.
Personally I think Fairphone is about as good as it gets, due to the commitment to conflict-free minerals and all that. I’ve been super happy with Fairphone for more than half a decade now. :)
You can also buy them new with /e/OS, which is a de-Googled Android developed open source by a French company called Murena.
Pre-ordered the Shiftphone 8. While it’s promising I am unhappy with their constant delays and communication.