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    I feel a ton of sympathy for the besieged Ukrainians. But it does feel good to see the Russians give it to the US war machine after 17 months of the US funding, arming and enabling the most gruesome Israeli crimes against the occupied Pal’s.

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      The people who will suffer from this are Ukrainians and Palestinians, the rich Americans who have spent decades benefiting from the US’ hegemony will continue being rich without feeling the repercussions of the current administration’s actions. The only Americans who will noticeably suffer from this are the ones who have already been suffering for a long time: Minorities, women, the poor, etc.

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      USA has hell to pay with nobody who will save them. They deserve 10 times what happend in gaza, iraq and afganistan

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    Trump is 100% a Russian asset, wild to see that after it was blatantly obvious the first go around we were like “yeah let’s out a Russian spy back in the white house.”

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      Half the country have always been aware of it, but are powerless to stop it, the other half either voted for him because of it- or are in complete denial that it’s happening- right before their eyes.

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      What you are saying is that the president of the most powerful country in the world, that spend 10 times more in war than russia, that run the biggest surveillance network ever seen in history, that has thousand of military infrastructures around the planet and that has the most technological advanced army in the world is 100% a russian asset…

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        This is obviously subjective and depends how you define “asset”.

        If you’re asking whether Trump is a red sparrow recruited as a orphan and trained in espionage, ballet, and martial arts from the age of 4, that’s obviously not the case.

        If you’re asking whether Trump is easily manipulated by his desire for validation from competitors, or his desire to exert power over others, then that’s obviously true.

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          If you’re asking whether Trump is easily manipulated by his desire for validation from competitors, or his desire to exert power over others, then that’s obviously true.

          Then expect him to be manipulated by the richest people on earth not just by russian

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            Then expect him to be manipulated by the richest people on earth not just by russian

            both are true. This is not mutually exclusive.

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              Indeed but it happens USA has 10 times the bilionares russia has. India has more billionares imagine claiming USA president is controlled by india

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        Yes. I think that he might push back at times for appearance sake but his foreign policy is basically just “do what’s good for Russia.”

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            I know it doesn’t just boil down to Ukraine, take the situation in Syria for a good example of Trump towing the Russian line during his first term in office.

            So then are you telling me this as a way to make it even more surprising and crazy that Trump and his admin constantly side with Russia?

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              The US and Russia side together when it benefit their authoritarian goals, see the case of Snowden getting stuck in russia because USA said so or look at the silence in general concerning global surveillance: russia never spoke a word about it because they also have their own surveillance and they don’t want the public to know about it.

              What do you think the US does with the biggest army in the world? Are all their warplanes getting dust in hangars?

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    You know, I can easily imagine the first part opening a lot of peoples eyes about Trump if they saw it on it’s own. Add the second part and they are likely to throw it into the flat-earth bucket of statements.

    I really wonder how much of the current situation in the US is because people would rather be smug and gloat over people with different politics then actually try to convince them.

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    The president grovels to putin: This is an unprecedented loss of u.s. soft power and the world is judging America for it’s cowardice.

    The president, congress and every major media organization grovels to netanyahu: …

    This does look bad on our part but the main thing making us look bad on the world stage is our support for Israel. If you ask the average person outside of the west what they find most offensive about this administration they’ll probably say its genocidal policy in gaza, not it’s shakedown of an ally.

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      That’s just not true

      Countries threatened by China care a lot more about this than Gaza

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        Maybe, but that’s a small amount of countries / people. Mostly Taiwan and to a far lesser extent south Korea and Japan. Most other countries aren’t threatened by China, and the few that are aren’t allied enough with the u.s. to plan there defense around u.s. support.

        Meanwhile the Israeli genocide has brought together the large swaths of the Muslim world with progressive anti colonial movements in the global south against Israel and the u.s.

        The world isn’t just the u.s. and its allies. Most people live in countries outside that political sphere, though most within it tend to forget that.

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          You are vastly underestimating the number of countries and people that feel threatened by China. It’s a huge country that is pushing its grievances and interests in virtually every direction it can. The list of targetted countries includes Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan (Republic of China/ROC), Vietnam, Bhutan, India, Japan, Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Singapore…and more

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    Another big winner here is China. I would love to know the contents of that meeting between putin and xi, I think back in 2022(?)

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    It wasn’t intentional. Trump followed Putin just as Vance followed Trump. He is just too stupid to have seen how this would play out.

    Getting attacked by a foreign leader is such an effective way to rally your people behind you, that governments often fabricate external threats as a way to unify their nation. Putin knew the ways this could play out. The only more desirable result for Putin would’ve been Zelenskyy reluctantly accepting the agreement, but globally discrediting the US was a guarantee.

    Putin was a KGB intelligence officer for 16 years before going to work for Yeltsin. The man outsmarts intelligence experts for fun. Trump’s ignorance and ego make him the perfect patsy, and the greedy Republicans in office have fully manifested into spineless yes men that are guaranteed to stay out of his way.

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      Putin is not some 4D Chess master. This should be blatantly obvious since 2022. But he does not need to be what you make him out, all he needs to be is a little bit smarter than the orange idiot.

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        I remember the first time I started to pay attention to geopolitics. It was when George W. Bush was elected president, and it made me freak out a bit. Why would a country like America elect such an obvious idiot to the highest office?

        I also remember that Putin in comparison seemed like an intelligent, sensible person, even if tad intimidating.

        I’m not sure what my point is except that George W. is a genius compared to Trump.

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          It wasn’t too long ago, we thought palin is batsht insane and stupid,she still is but ?

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        Of course. I wasn’t praising him, but comparing his experience in political manipulation to Trump’s. MAGA isn’t any better, taking Putin’s word that he’d “much rather have Biden or Harris in the White House” than Trump.

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    It wasn’t disinformation - it is a pedophile who had minors delivered into his bed and was filmed during the atrocities. The resulting child pornography is what makes orange guy the lap dog of a psychotic killer.

    The rest was easy with an asset that high in the ranks.

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      It was mostly disinformation though, if you look at how most of the social media, and MSMs ran, it’s mostly talking points from Russia in some form another

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      Could be. It could also just be bribes.

      The current situation is really nice for countries like Russia, Saudi-Arabia and China. They just need to pay a few billion to Trump and get stuff that cannot be bought and are easily worth hundreds of billions from the US empire.

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        Their new crypto grifts really take this to an extreme level. Hundreds of millions just directly given to Trump as bribes now, its actually insane.

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        It could be either of those things certainly, but I feel like no amount of money Russia could provide would be enough for Trump, he’s in control of the United States Treasury and can direct money anywhere with impunity (see also: Starlink). If they came out with a video he’d just call it fake - particularly in this age of AI - and it would have zero effect.

        Russians throw people out windows all the time though. I’d be willing to bet that the threat of physical harm is all that is necessary to control him.

        Or quite possibly, all three things. Keep us happy and the money keeps flowing, the porn stays in the vault and you won’t be unalived.

        One thing is certain: it’s not nothing.

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          Russia doesn’t care, as long as there’s division in the west, and they have achieved in many countries already

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      And at this point, who cares? Tell the CIA what blackmail Putin has on you. That’s what they’re there for.

      Don’t sell out your whole gd country and the world because you’re just that desperate to hide your personal crimes.

      What a moron.

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        Because once you give into blackmail, that just opens to door to further blackmail. And every single time you give in, it makes it worse and worse. At this point, yeah Trump could get his base to arm wave away him fucking minors. But then he’d have to explain away every thing he’s done for them since then, which is just treasonous.

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    Don’t normalize imperialistic ambitions as a way to appeal to fascists. Ukraine should be supported, but not because of the need to maintain the hegemony.

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    “No country in history” is a pretty bold claim. Surely Britain ceding India for example would be a counterexample, just off the top of my head.

    But honestly, uh, good? I don’t want the US acting as global hegemon. The power and influence wielded by the nation-state only goes to benefitting the rich and powerful. It doesn’t benefit ordinary people in any way, whether domestically or abroad.

    I don’t know why it’s assumed that heading a global empire is supposed to be a good thing, it certainly doesn’t align with my values as a leftist.

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      Britain didn’t give it up out of the random whims of its government. India functionally became ungovernable. This isn’t anywhere near the same thing.

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        Oh, there’s an idea. So it can’t really be said to be “willfully given up” on a “random whim” if a military force is preventing you from exerting control over a given region.

        In that case, I do have just a couple of notes for OP.

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    Did USA give up any power? I’m missing something or people are not paying attention at all?

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      Yes. We are losing soft power and allies all around the world thanks to the orange menace.

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        Our soft power has taken a greater hit from our unwavering support for Israel than this. How many countries outside of Europe have come out to condemn this? Meanwhile u.n. vote after u.n. vote everyone except for the u.s. and it’s proxies vote to condemn this genocide and the u.s. sending weapons.

        This definitely doesn’t make us look good, but it’s not the unprecedented foreign relations catastrophe people are making it out to be.

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          Our soft power has taken a greater hit from our unwavering support for Israel than this.

          Some truth there but Israel has been expected due to prior policy.

          Shitting on your supposed “ally” makes other allies wonder when you gonna do it to them.

          Soft power is when your allies play ball with out a gun to their head. Allies support israel by and large and those who oppose won’t under mine their US relationship over it.

          So from soft power perspective shitting on Ukraine very bad optics especially in light Trump pulled out a chair for bibi and then suck his dick on camera for the world to see.

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          Right or wrong (it is wrong in my opinion), supporting Israel and letting them do whatever the fuck they want while shoving weapons down their throat and no one daring to fuck beyond with them beyond words because you’re backing them is an extreme show of the extent of your soft power I would argue.

          Pulling support from a former ally in open war against your historical arch nemesis because your leader feels like they didn’t thank them enough is the opposite. It tells everyone else that your words mean nothing. What about Taiwan tomorrow? Did they thank Trump enough to be protected from Chinese aggression?

          That’s the literal opposite to unwavering support of your ally even if that ally behaves like a lunatic (read: genocidal maniac).

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        How is USA losing soft power and which allies are they losing?

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          Translation: you’ve either been under a rock, or you’ve been watching nothing but Faux News.

          This, folks, is why it’s important to stay informed with actual news and information. So you don’t ask a silly question like this.

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          Canada, Mexico, the UK, the EU.
          I can guarantee Africa, South America, Australia, New Zealand… All countries are paying attention.
          All are recognising the US as significany weaker than they have been in a long time. All of them are making power grabs by supporting Ukraine and investigating new trade alliances/deals not involving the US, further weakening US power.
          While these are absolutely the moral and correct things to do, and supporting Ukraine is the human thing to do, bolstering international security - there is also a huge amount of soft power to be had in the support, and a good reason to up domestic arms production which helps replace/offset Americas hard power (IE military might).
          Where countries have relied on American weapons before, the threat of America “switching off” a countries jets and missiles cannot be ignored.

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            Canada, Mexico, the UK, the EU.

            So what changed between these countries and USA?

            All are recognising the US as significany weaker than they have been in a long time.

            How are they doing that?

            All of them are making power grabs by supporting Ukraine

            Power grabs to what?

            and so on

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      One of our greatest strengths is that we build coalitions. We just told the world that if you ally with us, you better be ready to grovel.

      For example, places like Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan are capable of building nuclear weapons but they didn’t bc they trusted us to protect them. Each of those countries are now imagining themselves sitting there in front of cameras being berated for ingratitude.

      Without our allies we are much less powerful.

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        For example, places like Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan are capable of building nuclear weapons but they didn’t bc they trusted us to protect them.

        They didn’t do it because they can’t without US approval.

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                a troll made it but the community can be anything we want

                did not chad get the ban hammer recently?

                either way, subbed

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                  I suppose that’s true, but if you’ve seen how they moderate that community, it’ll be impossible to have that place be anything other than what they want it to be.

                  And I hadn’t noticed them getting banned. Might have to look into that.

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              Iran is a geo political enemy… nobody cries about this.

              If US starts going this route with allies, it won’t end well for US. They can’t enforce hegemony at a gun point if we don’t have the coalition of major world economies behind our back. In that scenario, we will need to be worried about them fucking us over if we get bogged down in Vietnam or Afghanistan etc.

              North Korea build the bomb and so did Iran and they even developed lunch systems.

              US literally transferred nuclear weapons tech and material to Israel to enable their “rogue” program.

              But yes… US killed an Iranian guy for working on nuclear weapons. Trust me dawg… we have done a lot more reprehensible things

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        Please highlight me on which power USA lost so far

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          Look at everyone elses replies to you fucking dolt. You want me to do your fucking homework lmao.

          Go suck some more Putin dick.

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            Look at everyone elses replies to you fucking dolt.

            No replies here actually point out to evidence that US actually lost a significant amount of power

            Go suck some more Putin dick.

            Why are you thinking of him? perhaps that’s what you want to do?

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          The people (and mainly the private companies) of an allied country redused to help America. Only under threat from the Norwegian government did the US ships get fuel. Sounds like a loss of power to me

          “Huge credit to the president of Ukraine restraining himself and for keeping calm even though USA put on a backstabbing TV show. It made us sick… No Fuel to Americans!,” the company said in a now deleted Facebook post - just a good excerpt from the article

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            The people (and mainly the private companies) of an allied country redused to help America. Only under threat from the Norwegian government did the US ships get fuel. Sounds like a loss of power to me

            Some company tried to go against US and they got immediately rectified, that’s the power we are talking about at work.

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              So, you can’t see how more and more people going against the US is equal to losing power world wide? How a government treating its citizens to be freindly isn’t actually friendly?

              We literally would gas up all the time in Norway no questions asked but now we’re not and you can’t see the problem?

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                So, you can’t see how more and more people going against the US is equal to losing power world wide?

                Trump and musk got shit talked for a decade straight and still managed to win elections. US power worldwide isn’t “talked” they actually have concrete power on almost every country in the world.