• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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        17 hours ago

        I wish I knew people in 2004 who defended the afghanistan/iraq war. I’d ask them today if they still feel it was justified.

        • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          9 hours ago

          My coworker said the other day he wished trump would be more like W Bush (both he voted for) so i presume not only does he still think it was good but wants more of it

          I’m trying to not talk about it for my sanity

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          11 hours ago

          That’s really not one conflict. Conflating them was what the US regime at the time tried to do to whitewash their decisions.

          Also, at least you do know people who were completely cool when everyone just pulled out of Afghanistan leaving the folk that worked with them to suffer the reprisals of the Taliban, so ask them if it was worth it.

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            Also, at least you do know people who were completely cool when everyone just pulled out of Afghanistan leaving the folk that worked with them to suffer the reprisals of the Taliban, so ask them if it was worth it.

            You mean the Trump plan? That Trump developed? No, we were not cool with it

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          17 hours ago

          Some do, some don’t. Check the change in bush’s approval ratings for a decent approximation of likelihood

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            11 hours ago

            They were both unnecessary wastes of life and resources that were started for all the wrong reasons, so kind of.

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              11 hours ago

              Fair but I would argue that as Al Qaeda was in Afghanistan and they attacked the USA that war is different than Iraq which never attacked the USA.

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                4 hours ago

                Al Qaeda was all over the place. Wasn’t a single Afghani on any of those planes. There were, however, 15 Saudis (out of 19 hijackers). The attack was planned by a Saudi. The organization was run by a Saudi, and funded by Saudis.

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                  4 hours ago

                  And yet the army of Al Qaeda was in Afghanistan. Osama Bin Laden was in Afghanistan at the time of the attacks.

                  If I as an American write checks to a buddy in Mexico who rounds up cartel members in Mexico to invade Belize should the army of Belize look to stop the army fighting them in the nation of the guy who wrote checks or in the place where the army actually is located.

                  Anyone who thinks we should have attacked Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) is really displaying how little they know about this conflict and conflicts in general.

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                    And yet, when we finally got bin laden, it wasn’t in Afghanistan. He moved, easily, with Saudi money. Thousands of Americans were killed with weapons paid for by Saudi money, held by troops recruited and trained with Saudi money. Seems like if we had cut off the Saudi money this thing would have been over a hell of a lot faster.

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                The Taliban tried to give America Osama Bin Laden but they wanted something in exchange, so they invaded and suffered 20 years of war over such audacious demands.

                The thing about Al-Qaeda and 9/11 is that it was always a Saudi operation.

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                    8 hours ago

                    The 9/11 attacks done by Al-Qaeda were Saudi. Al-Qaeda itself is a bit different, right, but I meant strictly in the context of the US invading Afghanistan and ousting the Taliban.

                    So ‘the Al-Qaeda operation of 9/11 was Saudi’ would be a more accurate way to put it.

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          12 hours ago

          Oh they act like there were bad actors that manipulated the innocent US. The president was just making the best decisions he could smh.

    • WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world
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      16 hours ago

      None of the ones in my circle have recognized it nor do I think they will. They’re going down and taking the rest of us with them.

        • workerONE@lemmy.world
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          15 hours ago

          There was a rumor going around that everybody was going to get checks from DOGE, people were talking about what they would do with the money when they got it.

          • The_Hideous_Orgalorg
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            15 hours ago

            I’ve got a coworker askeng when the no tax on overtime takes effect. The other day he was going on about it passing and every Democrat voting against it. I told him that the bill didn’t say anything about no tax on overtime, it still has to pass the Senate, and it’s going to cause Medicaid to collapse. He just denies, saying Medicaid isnt going to go away.

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              9 hours ago

              He just denies, saying Medicaid isnt going to go away.

              “It could never happen here! Why would they just ruin people’s lives like that? They’re just getting rid of government waste! Now pardon me, I have some more sand to stick my head in.”

              I also have coworkers like that. My condolences.

    • Rin@lemm.ee
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      16 hours ago

      I’ve seen a few that have admitted regret. Unfortunately not enough of them.