Chuck Shumer is a traitor. He must be primaried.

I choose @aoc

#politics

          • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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            4 days ago

            The Neoliberal part obv.

            Sucking the cocks of the rich will never be a winning strategy to attract a working class voters, the interests of the voters Democrats take for granted are fundementally at odds with the interests of their doners.

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              So your strategy is to convince the 35% of the population who vote Democrat like it’s their sports team to change their minds, and then the centrists from both sides as well?

              Do you see why that’s not a winning approach?

              I love the rage. Keep that. Is the impotence you need to learn to part with. If you can’t use all the tools at your disposal to win, then you choose to lose and you’re no better than the fascists.

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    If people voted in every primary, in every local and state election, that would be a constructive, slow and steady way to get your way in a democracy. The progressive politicians that you want are there, trying to start out in school boards and city councils.
    And you also have to sometimes vote for imperfect candidates, especially when the alternative is a plague-infested rat in a suit.

    But since you only invoke primaries as an act of protest, never constructively, the candidates that would have acted the way you want them to act, their political careers withered and died almost as soon as they started.

    People get what they vote (and not vote) for. People that started voting with Obama, should have started and kept on voting in every election. But no… that would have required (gasp!) making an effort beyond memes and soundbites! A couple of days a year! As such, any further Obama attempts to get his ideas and agenda past political opposition (and outright sabotage) were mauled to death in the 2010 midterms.

    “If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again.” Obama would have tried. But left-leaning voters are delicate flakes, both lazy and they want everything perfect on a platter on the first try, and they might as well not try at all. Just as mindless as the maga hordes.
    So things are always at square one… no, strike that - always at square zero or minus.

    Now people like trump and vance, musk and Schumer, AND the far-right Supreme Court, are a perfect example, the exact representatives, that reflect the government you chose, through inaction and petulance.

    Congratulations! This is how the world sees you.

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        Probably because there is power knowledge incumbents have. It’s not always bad.

        But in this case the democratic old guard has lost it since the Harris defeat. They need to go.

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          Chuck and pelosi have been holding onto power with a death grip for decades. Don’t give me bullshit about “since the Harris defeat.” I don’t understand how they maintained their voter base when they haven’t listened to constituents in ages. Just laughing them out of their offices.

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        4 days ago

        I’m asking this seriously, not looking to start an argument.

        Do you disagree with this?

        “There are no winners in a government shutdown,” Schumer said in a floor speech. “It’s not really a decision; it’s a Hobson’s choice: Either proceed with the bill before us or risk Donald Trump throwing America into the chaos of a shutdown.

        “For sure, the Republican bill is a terrible option. It is not a clean CR [continuing resolution]. It is deeply partisan. It doesn’t address far too many of this country’s needs. But I believe allowing Donald Trump to take even much more power via a government shutdown is a far worse option,” he added. “I will vote to keep the government open and not shut it down.”

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          Yeah I disagree with him, he is saying avoiding a shutdown is better, but I think that allowing the Republicans to rob Medicaid funding and use that to give tax breaks to only billionaires is far worse long-term than a government shutdown now.

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          The issue is that Trump is already killing everything in government that serves the people anyway.

          The Democrats need to tell them to get in line and follow the fucking law, or 100% of their funding will end right now.

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            I hear you. I just don’t have any faith in the Democrats.

            The Democrats are complicit in this. They’re not merely incompetent or ineffectual. The party serves the same class of donors that the Republicans do, but they are less loud about it. It’s not an accident that they abandoned the working class decades ago. It’s not a coincidence that they’ve lost well over a thousand elected positions across all levels of government. They don’t serve the people, and the people likewise don’t vote for them reliably because of this which keeps the Republicans in power.

            Shutting down the government gives Trump fewer good people to stand in his way. Most people in our government are public servants and not politicians, but without their consciences in the way, nobody stops or resists the takeover.

            Neither are good options. I don’t know what’s actually better.

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          If Republicans don’t have the votes, make them change the CR to be better or let them suffer the consequences of not passing it. It’s in their power. You don’t help them get what they want. Force them to play their hand or back down.

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            I’m torn on this. I agree with what you’re saying, but I also agree that a shutdown benefits Trump’s efforts to seize more power and cause more chaos. They’re not playing by the rules, so fewer government officials to stand in their way does work in their favor.

            Both seem like shit options.

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              Well, they either have an easier time taking power or they’re handed it. I think it’s better to force them to take it.

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    4 days ago

    Whether you agree with this or not. This is a user who signed up 3 months ago, has zero activity except for this post. My suggestion is to report them and move on.

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    4 days ago

    Lemmy is turning into Reddit real fast. Astroturfing and spambots everywhere. F*** Schumer but also fuck this torrent of low-effort garbage.