• drolex@sopuli.xyz
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    6 days ago

    Nice argument, unfortunately I have already depicted myself as the Chad <any Roman figure of the second Punic war> and yourself as the soyjak Carthaginian

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    6 days ago

    I do really love this image. It’s well drawn and very evocative. Cato the Elder really looks a bit young young, he really WAS old. Also I am of the opinion that Carthage must be destroyed.

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      During the Third Punic War he was old, but he was a paltry 16 years old when the Second Punic War started, and 34 when it ended.

      Man really hung onto life for another 50 years just to see the remains of a once-powerful city destroyed.

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        6 days ago

        Ah, I misread it was about the second punic war. The thing that set him off.

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    6 days ago

    Has some “It’s me” vibes… Most of these guys were Italian born. Not a lot of blondes and redheads over there.

    The problem seems to be when someone like Cato is described as having Reddish hair, artists embellish this and make him Scottish looking. Reddish probably meant by Italian standards - so dark auburn or chestnut is more likely.

    Likewise “blonde” over there is probably just a way to say someone went gray early or were best known after their hair turned gray or white.

    They’re mostly Italians after all. It’s the same issue with our depictions of white jesus.

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      Italy has a not-insignificant amount of fair-haired people. Around 10% of the population around Rome today has blonde hair, and the words used for graying or white hair are very different. Germanic peoples are referred to as very commonly having blonde hair (‘flavum’), and some noble families in Rome notably had fair-hair running through the bloodline.

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        Meh, to put it another way 90% of the modern population don’t even have fair hair (and that’s with global travel being involved), and only some of the noble families had any in their bloodline.

        I just think there’s an obvious bias involved when artists make these kinds of choices. Historical depictions should aim for what’s most likely: Italians looking like Italians.