The more people see the engagement, the more chance of them asking “what is that?” It won’t be long until the apps are better, and links to articles could be less likely to get suppressed than migration memes.
I can only speak for myself, but I only saw Mastodon as viable after I started being exposed to the content there…
That’s the tactic that got me started on Reddit. For a while before the dreaded relaunch, many of the links on Digg were just linking to Reddit posts.
I’m already doing it as I can and sometime getting downvote, but I’m fine.
I wonder how long it’ll take before Reddit starts shadowdeleting anything containing links to Fediverse websites?
One week
It’s been one week since spez looked at me Cocked his head to the side and said, “I’m angry” Five days since I joined Lemmy Saying, “Get your API together, come back and see me” Three days since the living room I realized it’s the IPO’s fault, but couldn’t see it through Yesterday, Spez was blocking me But it’ll still be two days 'til he says he’s sorry
Oh, probably like -5 days. I’m sure they’d just be blacklisting domains, though. Linking to smaller, lesser-known instances that don’t literally have “Lemmy” in their URL might work, though. Especially if you don’t re-use any particular instance too frequently.
But that might also confuse people.
url/link shorting websites that used to be used to hide rickroll links all the time would probably work to get around that
They probably are already
According to some users on r/redditalternatives some people have already been shadowbanned for posting lemmy links.
I wonder if a link shortener would avoid that
Good question, but idk the answer
I posed this over a week ago as a test, and nothing seemed to happen.
That’s how a shadow ban works. You think you’re posting as normal, and you see your posts, but your posts don’t show up for others and your votes don’t count.
Says deleted
That’s just because the mods who made that sub decided they don’t like the lemmy devs.
It says “that comment is missing” for me.
I have an automod that links to all the other places my sub is on. It’s getting mass reported everyday. I have to manually approve them all.
With Fediverse, you could see the exact same post with different links generated from different instances, so theoretically you could bypass the filter by using obscure instances to share the post link, assuming they’re just filtering links via domain name.
Don’t overdo it or the links will be shadow banned for spam
I am going to delete my reddit account anyway. I will test their bottom line and there is nothing to lose.
Your name… OSRS does have F2P?
i have food but i still need it too
It’s a good idea, instead of “please join Lemmy/kbin”, just share posts and people get more interested on what is this
Good idea. Kind of like guerilla-marketing.
That‘s actually a smart idea. Thank you
Not always. Be careful. It got me banned from a few subreddits I thought were chill.
Just did that for the first time yesterday, actually!
Good idea! I just posted a link to r/politicalhumor.
Aaaannnddd…autodeleted by bot. Links to other sites are forbidden.
Try using a url shortener and hiding the url behind the highlighted text link thingy like this
Might be enough to trick the bot, might not be. Only 1 way to find out
Nah, that’s called spam at that point.
Don’t make the Fediverse something that only has a reputation for spamming reddits.
Link to fediverse posts where it’s allowed and makes sense to do so.
Don’t link to fediverse posts - even using tinyurl workarounds - in places where that activity isn’t welcomed by the mods.
Absolutely, I’m not saying to spam anything. However, if every single post or comment with a fed url is deleted by automod, there should be a workaround
If every single post or comment with a fed url on a particular subreddit is being deleted by automod, then it’s because the mods of the subreddit presumably set it that way, and their wishes should be respected. Not respecting the wishes of subreddit mods was exactly how reddit got itself into the mess it is now in.
Very smart idea, i think this will get users to get to Kbin/Lemmy
What if we called it kaboomy
It would be hilarious if the r/bestof mods changed their rules to only allow links to the fediverse
I’ve been kind of suggesting the same thing a few times inside of posts. I’m coming at it from the perspective of having had to do a lot of in-person recruiting for voluntary activities, mentoring, and teaching – you cannot tell people things like “you should just join lemmy/kbin” – you have to wait for them to ask “how do I join lemmy/kbin?”
That’s okay! It just means that the focus when introducing people to it has to be “here’s what you’re missing”, positive about where they could go rather than negative about where they are.
It’s an uphill battle trying to argue with people who do have a point about it being harder to use (we shouldn’t gaslight people), but they’re also saying what the audience is wanting to hear because it gives them permission to do nothing.
How many are just admin accounts or sock puppets for some agenda or another anyway?
Consider focusing on the positive – link to specific posts on these systems that are objectively worth going to participate in. They don’t need an account to read and enjoy.
Then, if they discover that they wish that they could participate in the thread – that is the time to explain that they should just join whatever instance the post they really enjoyed was on for starters. They’ll realize that they can see magazines from other instances, probably after a week when they realize other instance domain names are showing up on things. Then some nice person explains what’s going on.
And now they’ve convinced themselves it’s worth joining…
That’s basically how I ended up here. Got exposed enough to the look and feel that I decided it wasn’t too bad and I wanted in on the fun.
Are you having fun yet?
Hm. Generally, yes. I’m on kbin.social. tl;dr: Fantastic and excellent social media alternative, but as someone that’s worked years in ITSec, I have some huge concerns.
Things I found surprising:
- Registration was intuitive and easy.
- There’s already a huge volume of good content readily available without having to “find it” (I had imagined it being more like ““the dark web””, i.e. you have to know what site you’re looking for
- Voting transparency omg holy shit. I remember when Reddit introduced vote fuzzing and it was the dumbest thing. At least on kbin, who upvotes/downvotes something is publicly viewable. So rather than “let’s fuzz the votes to throw off the bots”, simply showing who voted allows you to easily find the troll downvoting everything or a flood of bots or so on. I imagine there’s probably not much tooling around this yet, but there inevitably will be.
Things I’ve found confusing, concerning, or have questions about (feel free to point me in the direction of a good magazine or FAQ as well):
- WTF is boost vs upvote?
- Are usernames unique across the fediverse, or only across instances? (Is there anything preventing me from registering e.g. [email protected] , then jumping on this thread and pretending to be you, or vice versa?)
- What happens if an instance closes up shop? Is there any way to migrate everyone’s data over to another instance?
- What happens if I decide I hate kbin.social admins, or you decide you hate lemmy.ca admins - are either of us able to fairly seamlessly move our identities from one server to another? Or would it be “nope, create a new account and start over”?
- On reddit, a lot of good things happen around flairing (users, posts). Does fediverse have an equivalent?
- Sometimes as I’m browsing I find myself on a different server (I think) and the language of the GUI is entirely switched to Arabic or similar. I still haven’t figured out how to fix that or even what’s doing it.
I still need to set up my own instance and play with that too.
This is a really good idea, hopefully it will pull more people to our communities.
If anybody wants to share a link to kbin/Lemmy so people join, don’t send the official Lemmy or Kbin page (or the official page of any federated platform) nor the link to any given server. Share instead links to the Join the fediverse wiki, fedeverse party, etc that have lists of servers and also have posts explaining anything a person needs to know to start an account on any decentralized platform/server.
