• Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net
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    I live in the country.

    It’s never peace and quiet. It’s constantly filled with the noise of shitty neighbors blasting music at full volume cause they don’t understand that sound travels. Then there are the gunshots every damn morning from dipshit shooting in their field. I’m constantly worried one day a missed shot is gonna come through my window.

    Let’s not even get started on when they brun the fucking fields (sugar cane) and the entire area is covered is astringent smoke and ash.

    Living in town, people understood that neighbors exist and at least attempted to be considerate about it; plus, I never had to worry about catching strays. Also, life was so much nicer, not needing to fucking drive everywhere just to do basic things or go get something to eat. Being able to walk or catch a bus was so much more convenient and stress-free than needing to drive myself. I was able to have a lot more free time since I wasn’t spending it on an overlong commute just to get anything done.

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    40 old me looking at a screen with SSMS and Azure: Instead of an engineer like my father I should have been a tailor like my mom… Or a carpenter…

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      It’s never too late to enter carpentry. I know quite a few programmers who do carpentry as their main hobby. Something about the math and the amount of careful planning is highly transferrable, I guess.

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        Whenever I try building something with wood, I get so frustrated that it’s not version controlled. In software, I can fearlessly try dumb stuff because I can just roll it back if it didn’t work.

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          Creating anything physical requires a lot of practice, and practice really only works if you make mistakes and then learn from them.

          Just have to accept that you will waste a lot of wood getting that practice. Heck, a lot of woodworking practice is repetition of the basics before trying to make something with those skills. Otherwise you end up with a bunch of hobbled together ugly stuff that still works like my stuff.

          Not catching very slight warping in boards is my weakness.

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        Nah fuck carpentry. You’ll just end up destroying your body to make shit money.

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          I mean I was referring to having a shop in your garage so you can build furniture, but you’re not wrong. Construction carpentry is one of the more intense trades I’ve seen.

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          This isn’t brick laying or plastering. Carpentry is an easy job on the body.

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            If you think carpentry is easy on the body I can tell you’ve never worked for or as a carpenter before.

            In either case carpentry is a massive world. There is a lot more to being a carpenter than making furniture. If that’s all you’re doing as a carpenter than I would argue that you aren’t much of a carpenter and your experience is highly limited.

            To me this is like calling yourself a computer engineer because 2 hours a week you write Visual Basic code in an excel spreadsheet.

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            It can be easy on the body provided one has cash to get and wear safety gear. Too many people depend on a cheap employer for their safety.

            Buy good gear. Use jigs. Protect hearing.

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            lol what.

            No.

            I work in tech. But (long story) started with a few years of carpentry/joinery. It is not easy on the body, unless you’re just making small boxes or cabinets. And even then, it’s still not really that easy.

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            US defaultism strikes again, is this carpentry as in building houses or carpentry as in building furniture?

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      At 35 I’m beginning to realize it’s good I don’t have an office job. Finnaly found a good employer and happy driving through the country.

      • ᴍᴜᴛɪʟᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴡᴀᴠᴇ @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        After traveling all over for work, having freedom to somewhat set my own schedule as long as I meet deadlines, I know I would lose my mind in a traditional office.

        There’s not much I hate more work-wise than sitting around after the work is done so you can get your hours, because someone on the crew thinks that’s more moral than leaving and they’re a snitch.

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        Honestly I am thankful all the time that people are able to find jobs that suit them best. I am a graphic designer by trade, and working from home has basically been the greatest creative boon I’ve ever had in my life, lol. The routine, access to nature, and just general lack of distractions has been incredible.

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      This is why we colonise space, at least the planets without aliens living there.

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        Almost every colony ever: gets oppressed and exploited, fights for independence, gains sovereignty, becomes either a tense ally or a hostile rival to their former empire

        Earthlings: “maybe we should colonize space”

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          So you want to send those undesireable people somewhere else? Maybe to conserve your way of living?

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            If by undesirable you mean I desire instead to keep living, and by conserve my way of living you mean I just get to continue breathing - then yes. They try to kill me, there’s no moral limit on what I can rightfully do in return if they don’t succeed. Including rocket them off to planet conservative before they get another shot.

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      Also the whole industrialization, privatization, and rise of capitalism thing in Europe that led to successive waves of emigrants leaving or being coerced from their homelands. I think in general people don’t leave their communities and families without some kind of direct or indirect violence.

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      Also homesteads weren’t exactly a great place to be. No infrastructure and tornado heaven. People lived there because it was their only choice.

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      I mean if it would’ve been empty land it could’ve worked likes this. I don’t think genocide is a necessary part of it

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    If you weren’t rich you couldn’t benefit much from “most advanced civilization” at the time. most of the them were really poor and desperate and gave everything just for ticket across the Atlantic with the hope for a better life.

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    The thing that I hate even more about all this, I could afford to do this. But you are not legally allowed to live on your own land in the UK without planning permission. I think it is vaguely comparable to zoning in the US.

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      Thats what i love about Canada, you can buy land in unorganized townships and can do whatever you want there. The interesting wildlife is just the icing on the cake.

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      We still have parts where you can disappear into the woods and just sort of fuck off forever. Alaska has the Remote Recreational Cabin Site program as a replacement for the Homestead Act and there’s parts of the state so remote you could essentially do whatever you want and nobody would ever know. Provided “whatever you want” involves freezing in the dark wilderness.

      I’m sure some of our other low-density states have similar things going on, and zoning laws vary wildly.

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        Hey hey hey, the wilderness is only dark in the winter and you won’t freeze to death if you don’t get wet and are wearing modern winter coats+snowpants+gloves.

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          I didn’t say to death (I did imply it). I have friends in Juneau but they previously lived in some less hospitable places.

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    I live about 15 miles outside of a small town (~20k) in a trailer park on the side of a mountain. Been here 6 months and it is AMAZING. Super quiet at night, can see the stars and it has a great view of the adjacent mountains nearby.

    It’ll most likely be awhile, but the plan is to save for a small piece of property with a similar rural location. In my teens and twenties, I used to think that I’d live in the big city, but as I got into my late 30s I couldn’t stand being in the city much. I don’t mind being able to visit occasionally, but city life just isn’t for me anymore. Too big, busy and noisy. Give me a nice, peaceful spot where I can read and enjoy nature quietly.

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      I relate to this a lot. Grew up in a small town, excitedly moved into a big city when I went to college, then bounced around cities for work for a while, and now that I’m married and have kids, I keep dreaming about living further out where we’d have more space and peace.

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      Do you get around by walking the old school way, or do you use these newfangled automobiles that are killing the planet?

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    I have been working for many years to find the right balance for me.

    Currently, by day I am a software engineer, but in my off time I am basically a recreational farmer — as in keeper of animals, not gardening. Though, plants are often involved in service of the animals.

    I live in suburbia and am pretty ideally located as far as local resources and infrastructure. So I brought a little bit of the wilderness to me. Currently spending a bunch of time on my koi pond.

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    This is something I will never understand. You want all of the trappings of civilization without being part of it? You want your cake and to eat it too.

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      Right? That kind of mentality is just selfish. It shows that someone doesn’t know how to live with others and wants to make that everyone else’s problem.

      Lol if you want to go live outside of civilization then go ahead; just don’t expect things like electricity, roads, and running water unless you can build it yourself. Facilitating all these antisocial people living out in bumbfuck is a massive drain on resources and fucks things up for the rest of us.

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      Most of civilization isn’t needed for the good parts to exist. The invention of the steam motor should’ve resulted in a ridiculously sharp decline in population, as most labor was no longer needed to feed the population.

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      we should totally leave the earth and go to the moon and mars and all that, I just don’t want Elon leading us there. And ofc there is gunna be environmental effects from all those rockets, but ngl if most of humanity left the earth, the earth might be better off

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    Didn’t the Puritans leave England because they really hated the Catholics and wanted to change the Church of England to not be as Catholic but the government of the day told them to fuck off?

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      The Puritans weren’t the only or even primary colonists, but yes that was their motivation. That and their barbaric faith practices were quite literally illegal… in medieval England of all places. Children weren’t even considered people yet but how the Puritans treated them was bad enough to be made illegal.

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      Yea, kinda.

      More that the Puritans wanted everyone else to confirm to their stricter standards and ethics, and the people at the time were fed up and ran them out.

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    56 countries and counting. No I am not couch or hostel surfing. Full time employee with about 1.5 months of vacay, so we travel a lot to every corner of the world. It’s different looking at things in YouTube vs real life.

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    Unfortunately we’re living in a world that no longer has much unowned/unsettled land. Everything has been bought and hoarded by the ultra wealthy.