• Clent@lemmy.world
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    Bullshit. The military didn’t make him an asshole. There are plenty of sane military folks who aren’t right wing tools.

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      It’s just a huge group of people that the majority of are just like him and they reinforce each others behavior. Maybe the military doesn’t “make” then but it cranks their behavior from slightly right leaning to extremist brainwashed goon level all day every day. I didn’t even know my cousin was a right wingers until he joined the Marines at 20. Now hes a Qanon trumper lunatic.

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        That’s just the right wing rabbit hole.

        The poorly educated are highly susceptible regardless of profession

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          And I guess if you’re poorly educated the military looks like a more viable option for you.

          If you have a university degree you’re not as likely to be interested.

          So it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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        I know the argument for it being socialist but I really dont think its true. Government services arent ‘inherently’ socialist. And its more of an opportunistic mincer than some “diverse organization”.

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            Holy fuck what an American take.

            “They don’t discriminate and offer the most basic of living services; it’s the most socialist socialism ever!”

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            It’s also very hierarchical and autocratic… literally the opposite of what socialism is.

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            They provide you housing, food, and a job.

            … thats not socialism. Dont get me wrong, im all on favour of everyone getting those things, in fact im a socialist as well. But socialism is about overthrowing relationships, not “getting free stuff”. The “free stuff” (from a capitalist perspective) is a result of overthrown relationships.

            They allow literally any race, religion, socioeconomic or ethnic group to join.

            And what happens to these people? Ask the afghans that were left behind or the victims of rampant rape culture.
            My point is that a meat grinder does meat grinder things. By not discriminating when joining, but not caring from whence the blood flows.

            It is successful at almost everything it does

            Again, Afghanistan (or more generally, citation needed). Also what does this have to do with the topic?

            They are willing to commit exteme acts of violence to protect you and each other.

            Thats like… a bad thing. You do realize this, right? Also, again, how is this relevant for the topic? Socialism isnt some kind of virtue ethics thing.

            If society creates something great (Canadian made night vision optics with thermal outlines or a better rifle design like the Austrian SIG Sauer MCX) it will be shared with by everyone equally.

            Sorry, i dont get your point.

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            and does not exist to create profits unless interfered by with politicians.

            Yeah, because there is definitely no group of people becoming absurdly wealthy off of the military industrial complex and invasions of foreign countries with valuable resources /s

            It also exists “to be interefed with by politicians” by its nature.

            This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. Thanks.