I unironically do not believe bad music exists. There are genres we subjectively find annoying or distasteful but there is absolutely no such thing as objectively bad music/low quality music.
I mean, music that is soulless and obviously low-effort in its production exists, but that doesn’t necessarily translate to it being bad.
I think making a joke about it is a lot less weird than the tendency to say a specific genre is “bad” without any trace of irony. When it’s joked about, it draws attention to how absurd the idea of objectively judging music is- while also giving you the ability to express your distaste for a specific genre at the same time.
Like being “racist” towards white people, it subverts the norm in a way that seems to conform to it at first.
And, to be clear, I have never heard this genre of music and don’t plan to after this thread.
The only music I can’t stomach is the white nationalist sort of country music, the stuff all about beer, god, driving a truck. Bleh. It’s so cloying and clearly made by middle class suburban ghouls pretending to be rural country people. I include that Oliver Anthony idiot here, and Jason Aldean. The worst culprit is Luke Bryan. Just propagandists working for coordinated fascists, all of them.
I gotta ask what you think of musicians who make music that’s intentionally supposed to be bad. Like Lou Reed possibly made Metal Machine Music as an insult to his record company. Bob Dylan made the album “Self Portrait” bad on purpose as well. My personal favorite is Hanatarash, who made music so inaccessible their performances were actually dangerous. They’d include construction equipment like jackhammers in their music, and one time they had to be stopped from throwing a lit molotov cocktail on stage. They eventually got banned from every venue in Japan for insurance reasons.
Sometimes, music that’s made to be “intentionally bad” ends up having people who like it anyways. Like the one dude on TikTok who tried to make an “objectively bad song” but accidentally made kickass breakcore
I’d bet that people who intentionally make bad music end up making music that sucks according to the people that like the genre they’re making, not music that’s universally bad
I unironically do not believe bad music exists. There are genres we subjectively find annoying or distasteful but there is absolutely no such thing as objectively bad music/low quality music.
I mean, music that is soulless and obviously low-effort in its production exists, but that doesn’t necessarily translate to it being bad.
The music people hate the most is what played when they worked retail.
Oh this post is giving me flashbacks. To restaurants instead of retail but
If the stomp clap hey genre didn’t exist, I’d be completely agree.
I was tempted to say something like this but I thought it’d take away from my point
I think making a joke about it is a lot less weird than the tendency to say a specific genre is “bad” without any trace of irony. When it’s joked about, it draws attention to how absurd the idea of objectively judging music is- while also giving you the ability to express your distaste for a specific genre at the same time.
Like being “racist” towards white people, it subverts the norm in a way that seems to conform to it at first.
And, to be clear, I have never heard this genre of music and don’t plan to after this thread.
I listened to the examples discussed in this thread and I’m like… it’s fine? I guess they’re kinda hipstery but it’s fine what’s the big deal.
To each there own comrade
The only music I can’t stomach is the white nationalist sort of country music, the stuff all about beer, god, driving a truck. Bleh. It’s so cloying and clearly made by middle class suburban ghouls pretending to be rural country people. I include that Oliver Anthony idiot here, and Jason Aldean. The worst culprit is Luke Bryan. Just propagandists working for coordinated fascists, all of them.
I gotta ask what you think of musicians who make music that’s intentionally supposed to be bad. Like Lou Reed possibly made Metal Machine Music as an insult to his record company. Bob Dylan made the album “Self Portrait” bad on purpose as well. My personal favorite is Hanatarash, who made music so inaccessible their performances were actually dangerous. They’d include construction equipment like jackhammers in their music, and one time they had to be stopped from throwing a lit molotov cocktail on stage. They eventually got banned from every venue in Japan for insurance reasons.
Then there’s Hello Kitty Suicide Club which is on a different level
Sometimes, music that’s made to be “intentionally bad” ends up having people who like it anyways. Like the one dude on TikTok who tried to make an “objectively bad song” but accidentally made kickass breakcore
I’d bet that people who intentionally make bad music end up making music that sucks according to the people that like the genre they’re making, not music that’s universally bad