• this has nothing to do with anything except a critique of the characterization of physical labor jobs and cardio… i used to be a seasonal farmworker. not like tractor riding, either. like straight up vegetable picker without any fancy automation. i was young and did a lot of stretching before and after work, so in some ways i was in incredible shape after many months of this. very flexible, strong back, strong hands, seemingly preternatural stamina for just constantly doing shit all day in the heat and humidity. and a remorseless eating machine. a lot of dudes i worked with didn’t stretch and while they were tough as balls and could do major work, but had a lot of posture problems from pulls and sprains and shit. if there were any kind of equity in this world, farm workers would get unlimited massage therapy and all that body work stuff that is gatekept behind $$$ for people who like sit in an ergonomic chair and make six figures.

    my cardio was dogshit though lmao. like i could walk anyone else into the ground, but anything quicker or longer than a little jog would have me feeling like i was dying.

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    When I lived in NYC I noticed the pmc libs are never even awake at 4:30-6 AM when the working class people bike to work. Some of the type-a ones pretend they wake up super early to hit the gym but they either lie or go to gyms in their homes/doorman building amenities.

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    This is the type of post you make when you have direct experience in a major european city, but have fuck all in the way of tools to analyse this situtation, and have also given the subject zero extra thought beyond your gut reaction. I know this, because I had the exact same type of thinking when I was 19 and had just started university.

    Also just a quick story time: When I had a job in central Copenhagen, there was definitely an element of class to the choices in transportation, as me and the other young grads had to take the train to work, as both of us lived some 20 odd kilometers from the office we worked in, while my boss and most of the upper management were all congratulating themselves on being eco-conscious and biking to work.

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    I used to bike everywhere because my job didn’t pay enough to save up for a car and its associated upkeep, and the busses were just slower than biking. I really hate carbrains.

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    this is such a common misconception that there’s a term for the lower class cyclists: “invisible cyclists”

    they are so easily ignored by most folks, they are non-existent in the perception of a lot of folks, but they exist if you actually look for them

    old article about this: https://www.bicycling.com/news/a20049826/how-low-income-cyclists-go-unnoticed/

    this quote lays it out pretty clearly:

    a lot of cities are focusing their efforts on building bicycle infrastructure to attract new cyclists (aka the “creative class”) rather build it for low income folks who already bike. This promotion of the creative class cycling is definitely linked to gentrification. In this way, cities are basically saying that “invisible” cyclists do not belong within their rebranded vision of a city for and by the so-called “creative” class.

    from a discussion here: https://bikeleague.org/rethinking-term-invisible-cyclist/

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        Totally.

        The first people I met that were vegan, trans, queer and used pronouns and also were internationalist intersectionalist (yes all of that at the same time) were punks in squats, who were poor, not seldomly drop outs (from school or in general) and most did not have rich or even economical okay parents. That was in the 90s-early 2000s.

        But it is too hard for our Dr. Engineering to use words like they, fuck off.

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    I’m far from elite. I just really like my bike over a car. In my city a car is slower unless you’re going really far since a bike won’t be stopped in traffic. Plus my bike is an MTB so i can ride over anything I want. Can’t do that in a car without getting in trouble.

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    Cyclists run the gamut but cycling infrastructure favors the wealthy. This favor is explicit (where agencies choose to create infrastructure, systematically) and implicit (land use follows “the market”, pushing the poor away from infrastructure).

    This would not be the case if we fixed the latter by overthrowing the capitalist class - or at leasr scaring the shit out if them.