No Hexbear isn’t brigading you I’m clicking on the main page of the website and replying to whatever I see. I don’t even know what website I’m on, I have ADHD, I aint got the kind of focus. Anyway I’m going to go brigade a thread about video games with my pro-FFXIV propaganda.
But have you considered that the hexbears are mean to me and don’t respect my liberal politics?
This is ironically also the Hexbear justification for defederaing other instances now, lmao.
What? Not liking politics is far different than actively using slurs.
Actively using slurs is their politics, and they must be ruthlessly bullied for it
No that is the same thing, and my entire point is that we would not previously have used that as an excuse to shy away from engaging in ideological struggle with another sub, or instance.
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Everyone please brigade this post.
Hold on I’m brigading my own e-mail inbox.
Sure wish I wasn’t federated with hexbear, the users seem to have that flavour of leftism I absolutely despise (the terminally online mini dictator one).
Anyway, please downvote this comment to oblivion. Thank you.
We don’t even have downvotes lmao
Ah shit
we can’t even see them on other instances, it only shows how many upvotes a post has
do you like travel?
We don’t have “downvotes” because, in reality, we’re the antithesis of your delusional beliefs, you Reddit-brained dipshit.
What you really hate is that Hexbear is full of leftists because when you realize there’s an entire world “to the left” of you, you can’t pretend to be the enlightened progressive leftwing white-savior by virtue of not being a member of the most right-wing political group, merely the second most rightwing.
Again, learning something from a Hexbear account which will make you realize your relative position on the global political spectrum is right-wing and fascist as fuck compared to the non-western empires that exploit and steal resources from around the world from countries with lesser power for your own benefit, while pretending you’re an enlightened hero of the world because you eat up neoliberal propaganda that makes you feel like a hero while sitting on your ass consuming your (stolen) treats.
Hexbearers can’t downvote. And we can’t dictate anything you do either. We are terminally online though.
Also we’re always right.
Funny that you want to use force to silence a left unity community. Very anarchist of you.
Actually you guys seem pretty friendly, maybe I’ll sign up one day
We have emojis :emoji: and the mega is very cozy.
We literally have emojis for days. Imagine the power you’d have at your fingertips with a hexbear account.
Allow me to demonstrate:
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communism with age of consent lowering charecteristics
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You should see us when we’re misbehaving
Oh no! GUYS, WE’RE MALIGNED! Did you hear that? The liberals have MALIGNED US!
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You said libertarian.
You’re not a communist. Communism is not something you make up in your own head
Communist dude. Im a literal communist.
Cool, lay out what books and authors you read that lead you to your beliefs.
you all cant even abide by a different flavor of communism.
sure we can, we have all sorts here. we even ban sectarianism against trots!
thing is, there’s just one little test your ideology needs to pass before it can be protected under the anti-sectarianism rule. it’s actually super easy. ready?“what do you think about the age of consent?”
no lying now, libertarian
libertarian* progressive brand of communism
Let me quote another bit of you:
I think Biden would have made for a wonderful president a decade ago. The problem is that our issues are so extreme that such a cordial, non aggressive person is not a good fit
The wrong man for a bad time.
Between the exponential collapse of capitalism under its perpetual growth model, to the climate crisis, to a rise in global authoritarianism, what we needed was someone who can rock the boat and right the ship.
This means that POA would’ve rather had Biden as president than Obamas second term (2013 etc.) - if you are a bit mean to how to interpret it. I would argue that Biden would’ve been a bad US president even 30 years ago, lets say 1993.
Sadly I think you are misinterpreting that fact that politics (especially within a capitalist system) is an expression of economics.
A just society wouldn’t allow them to intermingle.
Which contradicts Marx. There is a reason he wrote the critique of the political economy.
Though that is of course a minor thing and creating different concepts is something that communists ought to do, some phrases coined by that and concepts work better than others though. I would argue that while politics is a kind of expression of economics or modes of productions, material and social relations, super structure and alike, it would be wrong to think that it is just a product that itself is a thing completely separated.
*: The libertarian term is what made people joke about it, since there is quite a number of people who label themselves libertarian communists or anarchists and not few of them are politically incoherent and have bad takes like abolishing age of consent or alike, you certainly are not an “Anarcho” Capitalist and are also not against the abolishing of age of consent, or are you?
Another bit you posted in 196 at blahaj, a now transphobe community:
Hello actual communist here. Commies rock, tankies sucks. We really don’t need or want authoritarian behavior in communist communities.
Which said in squats and communist meetings of trusted comrades have very different emphasis than posted in a reactionary hub. Some would even label you anti communist for it. If you are a communist I would expect you to write more communist stuff in two month honestly.
Finally it is nice that you label yourself a communist, for me communists aren’t people that label themselves as such, but:
Communism is the real movement that abolishes the state of things
So are you part of the real movement? How so? What collective actions and social relations do you forge?
Oh yes “democratic” communism. We have unity with actual tendencies, not ones you made up in your head
libertarian progressive brand of communism
Ya, zey didn’t even let me practice mein nationalist socialist brand of communism
perfectly pathetic self martyring attempt lmao
We don’t downvote
To downvote is cowardice. To post is praxis.
Downvoting is the 12th type of liberalism
They have the downvote button disabled on Hexbear
It’s true. Downvoting is the coward’s post.
Yeah we can’t just dislike and move on, we must post. Whether it’s writing a response or just or
WE DO?
go back to reddit then
Doesn’t your crappy website have a way to sort our stuff out? Hell, at least we have a “local” sort so I don’t have to see all the unfettered liberalism
Never tell me what to do, you fucking liberal. Have an upvote.
fuck off lib, nobody wants you here
What, you don’t like your lefty folks being indistinguishable from 4chan trumpers? Their version of Qanon is clearly more better.
Yeah, I mean, other than the slurs, the vocabulary, the comms, the views on minorities, the views on women, the views on LGBTQIA+, the views on people with different skin colors, the views on people with different religions, the sheer differences in site demographics, the views on economic and political systems, and in general our entire worldview on politics; aside from those very minor differences, we are basically 4chan.
Thinking that we are merely QAnoners or Trumpers betrays your embarrassing lack of knowledge of anything going on outside your borders. To think the world is encapsulated by a fight between liberals and deranged conservatives, where the arena of political thought is just between Biden and Trump (with Bernie representing the Most Socialist You Can Possibly Be), rather than a class war where you both are on the side of the imperialist bourgeoisie, is a frighteningly sheltered worldview.
Aside from exhibiting the exact same toxic behavioral patterns, yup they’re different.
Insulting people for being dipshit reactionaries isn’t a “toxic behavioral pattern”. The average liberal holding their hands over their ears and screaming “LALALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU PUTINBOT!!” whenever they hear any rhetoric or politics left of Reagan is infinitely more damaging and toxic to societies online and irl.
To quote Martin Luther King:
First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can’t agree with your methods of direct action;” who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a “more convenient season.”
Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
Ah yes, the classic out of context MLK quote to show how right you are. Who would argue with that?
I think he is providing the context and then bolding the portion he intends to quote, which is relevant to his point.
toxicity is when you bully proven bigots instead of treating them like royalty
fuck off back to shitbag
Not sure what storefront is. Not in favor of bullying, but if your going to bully, bullying bigots sounds like the best kind of bullying at least… Are you admitting to being a bigot? That’s a real weird flex.
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brigading is when we comment on things on our front page
If we defed sh.it.my.pants and lemm.pee, we can actually brigade them. That’s not my main reason to defed them, but still.
Hexbear users remind me of those grey bad guys on the power rangers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhCiue3INIw
Edit: lmao at the breakdancing footwork.
@iHUNTcriminals
ACAB
Cops and gangs all run the same game my friend. It’s an ugly heartless world.
I like to think of us as Monarch henchmen, what with the butterfly gettups et al
Accurate. Also lmao at the break dancing.
I love this comparison. Absolutely spot on.
The putties lmao
Hell yeah that’s the nicest thing anyone’s ever said about us
You most definitely can brigade regardless of federation. Brigading refers to organised mass posting by a group of people.
Now, whether or not what’s happening is brigading is another matter. Just having users post there isn’t brigading, there has to be some organisation of some sort, like a post that effectively (intentionally or not) calls people to arms to another post/comment.
By that definition, we brigade all posts on our site and everywhere else, because we have a carefully cultivated culture of organised mass posting everywhere we see. If other Lemmy users aren’t posting with every fibre of their being, that sounds like theeeeir fault.
Posting everywhere individually isn’t a problem, it’s making a post about some other post then everyone from that second post going over to the first - in particular with some sort of call to arms in the second post.
a carefully cultivated culture of organised mass posting everywhere
If it truly is organised, then that is the definition of brigading.
Fair enough. As we banned the first behaviour weeks ago, I guess we never brigade anything.
Can somebody please invite me to the secret brigade organizing comm? I’ve never been directed to brigade anyone yet.
I’m a soldier with no CO.
A yin with no 🧢.
A without a racism.
Send help!
Depends if a link is shared
Edit for clarity; by a user to somewhere else
… What else are you doing when you post it? If it’s posted in a non-federated instance, it’s only shared locally, but it’s still shared.
What am I missing?
If you share an image of the comments rather than a link it’s less likely to lead to brigading.
What if a link is shared with a different community because that community has a shared interest? Is that brigading? What if it’s crossposted? What if I share your post with my discord friends because I think they’ll have something interesting to contribute? What if I tell one friend about your website? 3? 5? At what point is that brigading?
See this is why brigading is the most worthless concept ever. All of our communities are free and open access. Anyone can pop in from anywhere at any time. And we largely WANT people with shared interests to show up and hang out. That’s literally the point. And we do that by sharing content with those people in hopes they want to stick around. The communities are BUILT off of what you and all the other nerds keep calling “brigading.” So basically you want your insulated community to never grow and never change and be members only FOREVER, or you want your content shared with others with the purpose of engagement in that content.
By the definition I keep hearing about evil evil brigading it just sounds like “stop sharing my post with anyone!” It’s the Internet on public sites. You posted it. It’s on there for anyone to see forever. You already shared it with literally the entire world. People are gonna see it and engage with it. If you don’t want that then you’re free to not post. Simple as.
We even have chapotraphouse3, a comm dedicated to not posting. Now, If you’ll excuse me, I’m going to post there.