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Putin breaks the deal with Prigozhin and says that criminal charges will NOT be dropped. The Russian Government is falling apart and Putin desperately tries to salvage the situation. All flights leaving Moscow are booked and oligarchs are fleeing. Subscribe to the channel for more updates! Make sure to support us on Patreon so we can keep covering news like this! patreon.com/The_Enforcer

      • erin@lemmy.sidh.bzh
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        For the next few days it will be hard to have reliable sources of info regarding the non-coup because the FSB will work hard to keep infos secrets (mostly to push the putler narrative post non-coup that russia is united). We can only speculate, but based on putler way of doing things, we have to admit that doing a Navalny to prigozhin is the most putler thing to do…

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    So much contradictory information coming out of Russia’s government. They can’t find the least embarrassing story to put out. Because there’s nothing that’s not devastatingly humiliating.

    Either way I don’t see how Wagner can continue to exist as it was, and Russia forces without Wagner have proven to be incompetent.

    Regarding the failure of the coup, while exciting to watch, the fallout could have been much worse than the current situation in terms of global stability and Ukraine. Wagner and bunch of factions competing for nuclear arms, or increased commitment to the Ukraine war would have been a very possible outcome. It’s clear that western governments are breathing a sigh of relief.

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      You pretty much nail it, there were an unconfirmed report of Wagner approaching a warehouse that holds tactical nukes (I really hope that remains a simple speculation.) If Wagner claimed the tactical nukes, that would’ve very nearly guaranteed a successful coup, because they could simply waltz right into Moscow and hold tactical nukes to keep the rest of Russian army at bay and other factions in Russia would realize the same thing, “Oh wait, so if they can do it… then…”

      Cue the Western Governments poker face at the enactment of the movie, The Dark Knight Rises, where terrorists/fascists gain access to nukes and Russia balkanize by competing warlords holding at each others throat with tactical nukes.

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    This whole ordeal feels like a massive mess. What is actually going on here? Where are the Wagner forces now? Why is Putin making himself appear so weak/untrustworthy? What a mess of a country…

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      It seems like a mess because it’s propaganda, and pretty shoddy propaganda at that.

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        Yes, Moscow had troops ready to blow up bridges and airplanes were destroyed deep in Russia were just bad Urkanian propaganda. There are no tanks in Baghdad, er, Moscow.

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          Just like how Putin was going to die of cancer in the next week…last year.

          But for sure they’re telling the truth about this!

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            If Putin publicly stated he had cancer and was going to die, and then he didn’t, it would be comparable. This actually happened. There is no way you can just say this coop attempt is just Ukranian lies.

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              Yes, I’m sure it did! Just like the Snake Island crap that turned out to be piss poor Ukrainian propaganda. But yes, I’m sure the Wagner stuff is totally real! They marched from Bakhmut, past Moscow to Rostov, then turned around and threatened to march on Moscow, only to change their minds!!

              Totally real, makes total sense.

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                And the moon landing were just fake American propaganda! Video evidence? First person testimonies? Universal agreement amongst historians? Na, it was all faked to make Russia look bad.

                I can lead you to water, but I am guessing no amount of proof will change your mind, so I’ll just stop feeding the troll.

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                  Sudden moon conspiracies! Makes sense coming from a gullible person that believes all this level of nonsense from Ukrainian propagandists.

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            You already said that.

            Also who said that he’s going to die? A click bait from one year ago and you can’t get over it?

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              Hahah, Ukrainian propaganda provides nothing but click bait, and when call out on it the responses are just about what you just responded. “Who cares if it’s real!?!?!”

              Truth is the Ukrainians aren’t capable of ousting the Russians, confirmed sections of Russian control have been unchanged since they moved it, and no amount of your fanciful, wishful propaganda have changed it.

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                You wrote that in under 15 seconds?

                Or is it in your copy paste folder…

                I’m stopping responding to this boring troll.

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                  No real response? It doesn’t take long to respond to your nonsense. This one took about 15 seconds, too!

                  Time for you to get back to spewing fairy tale talking points! I heard Putin ate a baby this morning!! And the baby said “please no, glory to Ukraine!!”

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    Hmmm. Putin dodged a bullet with Wagner stepping down. Looks like they’ll probably be stepping back up.

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    This is a big mistake on Putin’s part. Progozhin showed Putin is weak and so another attempt will eventually follow. The next one will not take a deal since he knows it won’t be honored. The next one will dictate a deal on the steps of the Kremlin.

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      Why won’t Prigohzin try the real deal now that he’s not getting what he wants? I mean why not right?

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        He’s been separated from his troops. But…

        1. If his troops are sent to the African continent, that’s the end of him.

        2. If his troops are dispersed into the regular Russian army, this may just be the preface to a longer story. Consider, his troops are the most battle-hardened, and, would therefore, be looked up to by other troops. What better way to swell the ranks of loyal followers?

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    They want to create a cloud of obscure information so that when Prig kicks the bucket they can say that they had nothing to do with it.

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    Even I was like “huh, Putin is just going to let him fuck off to Belarus after this whole thing, riiiiight”.

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    Honestly, I’m still thinking this is some next level of maskirovka to reposition Wagner in Belarus for an attack.

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      People are rejoicing too much while we have no fucking idea what is really going as of now.

      Most of this circus does not make much sense. I am waiting for more details to make judgement.

      Your theory makes more sense than the narrative.

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      The problem with the line of thinking that this is some sort of deception or a trap, is that none of what is happening here is working towards anything. You simply can’t do surprise troop movements in the age of GEOINT, nor are intelligence agencies so single-minded you could “distract” them with a fake coup, nor does this have any effect on the current Ukrainian offensive. The supposed trap is missing the “trap” part.

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    How to get yourself killed faster 101. What makes Putin think this is a safe situation for him to do this? I don’t think it even salvage his shattered image of being a strong leader.