A horde of trailer-park visigoths can sack the Capitol and Republicans say “what’s the big deal?” But let one guy show up in casual clothes and they lose their goddamn minds.
He can do it in a bikini, for all I care. Let’s not pretend Congress stands on decorum now.
Or tradition. Or morals. Or principals. Or anything at all really. They just suck.
Principles*
I mean I suppose it doesn’t stand on principals, either…
The joys of depending on auto complete. Thank you.
Yeah, but principles aren’t at stake here. Just surface decorum.
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Didn’t one of them literally bring a big giant card with a photo of the president’s son’s dick on it for their speaking time?
Yes MTG did.
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Uhm, also, how isn’t that sexual harassment and non-consensual porn?
How isn’t that a jailable offense?
Well, what you fail to see is that they’re rich - and therefore they have a different system of justice from you and I.
Yes!
Revenge porn displayed without warning (by an R senator) in congress? Republicans: 😴
A (D) Senator in casual wear? Republicans: 😱
Priorities, people! Ffs.
Fascism has always been big on dressing fancy.
Our founding fathers must have been so fascist.
The founding fathers didn’t dress fancy at all, literally the attire of better of peasantry, they just made sure to look their best for
picturepainting day.the idea of Washington in his military uniform as permeated the public idea of what the man looked like to the extent that modern depictions show him wearing his military uniform when spending time at home with his children!
Everyday is picture day now.
if every day is picture day, no day is picture day
If they show up for painting day wearing their fancy wigs and clothing they most certainly cared about their image.
remember back in school, on picture day you would see everyone trying to look their best, did they do that every other day? did people come in with sweatpants? (if school allowed it), or did they wear their dress pants every day?
Fascists like dressing fancy, but obviously not everyone who does is a fascist.
I am wet, so it must be raining.
but you can’t argue that there is a higher likelihood that they are
Obviously
Fascists always dressing fancy =/= everyone dressing fancy is a fascist. I’m sad to see such a pitiful level of reasoning skills, I hope you don’t vote.
Applying the logic of someone’s statement shows poor reasoning skills?
I typically vote Democrat, but I guess if I have poor reasoning skills I will just stay home on voting day.
I just explained your fallacy, maybe your issue is refusing to read before replying to people instead, in this case definitely don’t vote since you may accidentally pick the republicans due to your unwillingness to read the ballots, assuming you haven’t done that already.
“If those jagoffs in the House stop trying to shut our government down, and fully support Ukraine, then I will save democracy by wearing a suit on the Senate floor next week.”
Lol, go git em Fetterman
He added “Wouldya rather have a yinzer or an asshole up here? Your choice.”
I always assumed a yinzer was just an asshole with an affinity for French fries on a Rueben. It is good sandwich tho
They’re good sandwiches, Bront.
Oh man he got them good.
If my opponents will stop focusing on issues that are very important to their constituents, then I will stop doing this thing that slightly annoys their constituents for a week.
Oh man, you really got him good.
This is a losing issue for Republicans.
Do they think their base gives a shit about dress codes? Obviously not! But the fancy lads can’t stand the thought of people not dressing correctly lol
Their base will get offended over anything & everything so long as it’s not one of their own being criticized. They are forever hypocrites, and generally dumber than a box of rocks.
Eh, the base will forget about this in a week if its not right in front of their faces on TV. It’s just not something they actually care about.
Some issues ignite a fire in the base and sustain themselves, like racism and queerphobia, but dress codes ain’t it.
That’s the thing though. It will be in front of their faces on tv on Fox News and their radio shows will bring it up all the time. It’s a propaganda opportunity for them and they’re gonna capitalize on it.
Don’t forget opportunity cost - by focusing on this nothingburger they’re letting other opportunities slip past them.
Just going for the low hanging fruit all the time isn’t a good strategy, is all I’m saying.
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Something something tan suit!
They don’t give a shit about dress code. They give a shit about having an excuse to be angry about something.
I guarantee if some GOPer showed up in a stained wifebeater with camo shorts and crocs, they would be celebrated as ‘just like us’ and ‘a hero of the people.’
That’s my point!
Republicans should have been the ones to do this first, their base would have loved it and it would have pissed Democrats off because it violates the precious norms. But instead they missed their chance and now Democrats are eating their lunch.
To be fair, I don’t think Gym Jordan owns a tie or blazer. I also really don’t care. :)
I can imagine an alternate universe where Republicans were the ones to do this, and you know in that universe Democrats on MSNBC would be up in arms about Republicans disrespecting the norms.
Their base does give a fuck though. Anything they can make into us vs them. Our team vs their team. And now it’s our team wears suits and theirs doesn’t! So fuck anyone without a suit because they are on the opposite team!
My favorite genre of Republican: trying to dress like the common man while all the clothes don’t have as much as a wrinkle.
Is anyone here in a client facing job allowed to dress like this? This guy is on TVs and websites around the world dressed like he rolled out of bed and grabbed yesterday’s shirt out of the laundry. Not on the weekend where he got called in for an emergency, but for a regular workday; one where he was scheduled to lead the all-day meeting he was in.
The vast majority of Americans have a dress code for work. It really isn’t an issue when the boss shows up to work looking like a hobo to fix something on their day off, but if they dress like this every day its a slap in the face to all their employees with a dress code.
If this guys showed up rocking a turtleneck and jeans or a polo and khaki shorts and people lost their minds that would be one thing, but look at that picture again and tell fill me in on the latest version of whataboutism.
Nothing wrong with relaxing the dress code some, but this guy is a walking example of why most companies have them.
His constituents voted for him. He dressed exactly the same then as he is now. His constituents are his clients and they approve of this uniform. I sense it has something to do with the fact that it connects with them as it’s genuine. Something that seems to be rather important to Senator Fetterman.
Perhaps we should rethink the literal centuries old understanding of what is or is not appropriate to wear in this setting.
That is a very good point. A business certainly wouldn’t send a salesperson in a three piece suit to try and pick up the business of construction workers if they were smart. Need someone who won’t stick out like a sore thumb.
Though, I suppose if you think of the voters as the boss, and the other senators as the people being marketed to, then maybe a dressing to the nines to convince them might be the right move.
everyone in a client facing job should be allowed to dress like this. the clothes are ARBITRARY
clothes are ARBITRARY
Total nonsense. Appearance is the true first impression we have of someone. This is a fundamental and common trait throughout mankind. We may not like how much emphasis is placed on personal appearance, but it doesn’t change the reality.
This is just the first thing that popped up when I searched “appearance is the first impression” this is not a novel concept and definitely has some (if not definitive) research behind it. https://www.science20.com/news_articles/appearance_says_lot_when_making_first_impressions
I had never heard of Fetterman before I heard that Chuck Schumer changed the Senate rules for him. The first headline I saw said something like, “relaxes the senate dress code.” I was like… why is this news and moved on. Then I saw post here with a picture attached and was like… wait what? At that point I stopped to look into the issue.
If Fetterman had looked presentable but not in a suit, I would have assumed this was more R v D drama to distract from important issues. That wasn’t the case. He looked ridiculous.
If I saw someone dressed like this checking their mailbox on a Saturday morning, I would smirk to myself in acknowledgement that I had worn similar stuff to do the same. If, however, I walked into a law firm because I needed serious professional help, and this guy introduced himself as the person I was looking for, then I would either ask if it was his day off or thank him for his time and leave immediately. Someone who cannot be trusted to manage their own personal appearance, also cannot be trusted to manage a serious professional issue for me.
If he is just incapable of telling the difference between looking like a slob and a professional then he needs to have a spouse or a staff member help him out each day. Nothing wrong with someone knowing their limits and focusing on what they are good at.
I’m looking at that picture and I don’t see anything that would cause a safety hazard nor anything offensive, so I don’t give a shit and neither do the vast majority of people. He’s not wearing anything that would negatively impact his job performance, it’s fine.
Also, its the legislature. If there was a dress code, it should be red and blue jerseys with their donor’s logos on them.
“we must protect the sanctity of that place at all costs”
I fucking refuse to hear Republicans speak of sanctity after the shit they’ve pulled since 2015.
The sanctity of this place has been fouled.
– John Fetterman and the warrior from Diablo 1
“Ahh, fresh meat!”
- Senate Republicans to Democratic norms
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…Why are we allowing Daily Wire here?
Same reason we keep seeing “mediaite” - I assume this community has no standards.
The current community policy seems to be we’re responsible for vetting our own sources. I understand that philosophy, though I think a mod comment with materials on reliability.
I would really like to see a bot that posts media bias information from one of the trusted sites for that information on every post. I’m not capable of creating one but had looked around and unfortunately none of them seem to offer an api.
I could potentially program one, a simple TypeScript bot probably wouldn’t be too hard. I’ll look into it later.
If you don’t like a source, downvote it. The Fediverse is quite large and people have different opinions which is how politics works.
As for bias, though it is a strong right-wing it doesn’t fall outside the creditable category. It doesn’t hurt to read and understand what the other side is saying.
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So you believe that opposes view points than your own should be censored? Our policy here is that we refuse to be an echo chamber where opposing views are not allowed. We WANT both sides represented so that mutual understanding can be formed. That means you will be exposed to opposing views, many you won’t agree with. That is the heart of politics and the purpose is to find common ground and compromise.
Deleted my original comment, because I immediately saw this coming. I’m not interested in defending why attacking trans folks and denying systemic racism is bad, or why queer people aren’t actually The Devil™.
Allowing alternate viewpoints is valid. Giving an entire site which regularly platforms hate and spreads disinformation (by your own earlier link, DW is middling at best) is not. Daily Wire has shown a consistent and intentional willingness to lie, misrepresent, and foment hate.
But sure. Hold on to your “both sides.” Have a nice day, I’ll see myself out.
So, yes, you want an echo chamber. That’s not the type of close minded community we have here. There are several ultra left wing only communities that might appeal to you. As for your single issue, we don’t allow hatred toward any group here nore does LW in general.
Disagreeing with platforming misinformation = ultra-left-wing??? In what universe?
Censorship is a mark of both ends of the political spectrum.
To point and laugh at them.
Don’t give them clicks dummy. They don’t care if you like them or not. They just want attention.
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As she looked up from the crotch of the man she was manually ejaculating in public, Ms. Boebert was quoted as saying, “shorts is so bad, it’s such disrespectful to the government and stuff”.
I’m just here to upvote the phrase ‘trailer-park visigoths’. Carry on.
I like it, it has some metaphorical levels, but I’m torn because Rome definitely had it coming.
Hell, did you know the Visigoths allowed women to inherit property and noble titles? They were the woke mob destroying the literal patriarchy by 410 AD standards.
(elvis) Thank ya, thank ya verra much (/elvis)
I don’t give a fuck. What are we doing about the worthless traitor filth who salivate at the thought of installing a dictator?
Me too, but at least business casual should be expected?
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Why? What someone is wearing really doesn’t make a difference as long as they’re decent.
Does someone wearing a button up shirt make them better at legislating? I must’ve missed that study.
Destroying Democracy = A-okay!
Not wearing a suit = Unimaginably evil!
Why do people care what they wear when congress is fucking us over regardless?
Because without the illusion of decorum putting a degree of separation between the common man and the senator, people might start to realize that the ones fucking them over are just as regular as the rest of us and maybe start to think about doing something about it.
I think that’s pretty much Fetterman’s point. Well, that and that he’ll wear whatever he damn well pleases.
Would you give a shit what the son of a bitch that shot you was wearing!?
So are we going to start eating with our bare hands? Taking showers when we feel like it? What’s next? Clipping nails in the middle of the state of the union. Public perception and image still matters and it should matter. I don’t give a shit what they say, putting a tie and a suit shouldn’t be too hard.
I think public perception is shifting to viewing people in a suit and tie as out of touch or sleaze balls. It certainly doesn’t garner my respect.
If public perception matters, I identify a hell of a lot more with a guy wearing a hoodie and shorts than I do with a guy wearing a tailored suit.
I don’t trust anyone with a suit and tie on. I’d venture to guess that’s going to be the majority of the younger voting bloc as well.
Fetterman is wearing the uniform of his constituents and whether you like that or not doesn’t really matter to Fetterman. I have a lot of respect for him because of that.
I’m not sure I get the shower example…
So what, Ted Cruz is usually wearing a bodysuit out of human skin and nobody bats an eye.
I’ll have you know Ted Cruz is a totally normal human whose skin is perfectly normal and not machine washable.
Ted Cruz is definitely only one being and not many.
Wait are you talking about his human skin or his regular skin?
Let’s go back to powdered wigs, knickers and coat tails. I’m sure Mitch McConnel remembers those.
“Mr McConnell, would you care to comment?”
“Well—”
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How about this tasty lettuce leaf?
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*excited turtle noises *
*excited turtle noises *
Unfortunately, this is the first thing that came to mind.
Disgusting.
How could Schumer let somebody who OBVIOUSLY skips leg day preside over the senate?
What kind of example is he setting for the kids? How can I be expected to get my son to pound out squats to exhaustion before school if THIS is supposed to be a role model?
well, Obama once wore a beige suit 😯
Not to mention the bike helmet, which made him look weak.
People always saying Obama looks week, people only every say I look day.
I prefer to look day.
What?
🤔 I see that edit icon. Not a fan of Day Man?
I prefer to look Dusk
Dailywire is absolute trash anyway