• mindbleach
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    1 year ago

    No platform earns an entire third of developers’ revenue.

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        1 year ago

        The cut, genius. The cut you said is “well earned.” That is what’s horseshit, here.

        And on consoles.

        And on phones.

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          And every one of them comes back because paying Steam 30% is by far the most profitable way to do business. They absolutely deserve every single penny of it.

          30% commission on an all margin product is not even sort of unusual or unfair.

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              Neat.

              A third off the top is still obscene.

              The fact ‘everyone does it’ is worse.

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                Then developers can release games off steam, and some do.

                But steam has many features people want and use that would add development costs if every dev had to make similar tools in house.

                Think SteamVR, Steam Controller, workshop, community forums, steam achievements, steam overlay, friends, etc …

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                  ‘This thing should be slightly different.’

                  ‘Then use something else entirely!’

                  Some of y’all really do not know how criticism works.

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                    Lol I see you don’t have an actual response so you move the goal post

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            “It makes money so it can’t be wrong.”

            “It’s commonplace so it must be fine.”

            Y’all have no idea what criticism even looks like.

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              The fact that using their services and paying them their cut is more profitable than not doing so absolutely, in and of itself, proves beyond discussion that their cut is fair.

              Yes, sales should cost money. Moving units is a fucking massive value add. Valve deserves every penny they take and more. They’re the best thing that ever happened to PC gaming and nothing else is remotely close.

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                Beyond discussion! What a mind-job.

                Continued use only proves this is a way to make money. Probably the best available way. But to suggest that, so long as people are doing it, there cannot possibly be problems, is obvious crap.

                Especially when you add “and more.” Oh: so this isn’t the exact right amount, as decreed by mighty god himself? We can talk about the middleman’s cut, so long as the rent goes up?

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                    There is no point humoring abusive word salad.

                    Valve could take a lot less and it wouldn’t kill them. Or PC gaming. Wouldn’t be whatever frothing insult you pretend it is, either. It’s just… less money. They’d still make a shitload of money. Just… less.

                    The number can be smaller and the sky wouldn’t fall.

                    The number right now is obscenely high. It’s the most they think they can get away with. And they can only get away with it because of their de-facto monopoly, which should end.

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          What’s your metric for “well earned” here? What are some ways it could be earned? What do you think is the right amount?