• Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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    Jesus. How is torture and rape as widespread and prominent as it is in this war? This is not normal.

    What does this say about Russian people that such a high percentage of their armed forces are so perverted, sadistic and vile?

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        It might just be the last 150 years that humans have tried to sanitize war but the behavior of Russia is notably awful even by medieval standards.

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          Historically war basically consisted of everyone getting together in a big field and having a large fight. People who lived all of half a mile away could just get on with their lives as long as they didn’t go near the war field.

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        It’s way, way more widespread in this war. Also note the distinct lack of torture being committed by the Ukrainians of the captured Russians.

        The genocidal behavior is common in other wars, unfortunately, but the high percentage of documented rape and torture of civilians, including elderly and children, is extremely unusual.

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          Do you have data to back that up? I can image that the Russians deliberately use rape and torture as a kind of weapon to demoralize Ukrainians, though.

          The fact that Ukrainians don’t seem to rape captured Russians comes down (I assume) to two things:

          • Ukraine needs NATO support and it would be a really bad look for them if they raped their prisoners

          • Most soldiers are (straight) men and I think there are a lot more opportunities for the invading Russians to rape than there are for Ukrainians

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            Yes defend the mass rape and torture, because the Ukrainians have reasons not to rape and torture they’re just as bad for not doing it somehow.

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                You literally just made a “both sides” argument out of thin air in defense of the side doing the mass rape. Justify that however you want to yourself. It has a very clear message.

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      It’s something that happens when you give people weapons and let them loose in another country knowing there is little oversight or consequences. Just allows the bad guys to finally do what they want. The “regular people” contain an underestimated amount of assholes.

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      Russia has always used state sponsored terror tactics and humanities violations. Just go read up on the way they treated people in their way to Berlin in WW2. It’s horrifying. Raping children to death in front of their families is just standard operating procedure for the Russian army and that never stopped being true.

      Now, they’ve used another time honored Russian strategy. They emptied the prisons/gulags to flesh out their front line. Which just feeds into the depravity of the troops who are well known for this kind of behavior already.

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      It’s normal for war situations. The kind of people who become soldiers are almost always open for raping other people when given the chance. If you read about other wars, rape is always very common.

      They are programmed into believing that the other country is evil, so that justifies their actions in their own minds.

      Soldiers are lost souls.